Has Lerner put the club up for sale?

Geoffery Paine has just submitted the following comment. Of course, it’s far too short to use as an article, but it’s a good subject, so I’ll expand on it;

“I’ve just heard that Lerner has said that as the fans want him to go and he doesn’t think he can take the club any further he is putting Aston Villa FC up for sale.
He wants £250 million. What do you guys think about that?”

Apparently, this rumour first came about from a couple of apparently confirmed “in the knows” on VillaTalk.
I haven’t read the actual comments and don’t know the ITKs history, so can’t really comment on what I think of their accuracy.

But I can give my opinion.

First off, the rumour is not new and the price being mentioned is extremely similar to what I heard at least a year ago, probably nearer eighteen months back and maybe two years or more.
The rumour, as rumours tend to do, has got round fast though. I read mention of it on another Villa site and it was mentioned here earlier.

The question that springs to my mind, is how has this rumour come about?
Who at the club would be privvy to such information?
Faulkner, of course and maybe the club’s Lawyer(s), but that’s about it.
Would any of these go spouting their mouths off? I seriously doubt it.
I very much doubt even Lambert would know. Not until any deal is close to being sealed anyway.

Another thought that occurred to me was, was this conversation with whoever heard it done over the phone or a video call?
As to my knowledge, Lerner hasn’t even been in the country for ages.
That’s ok though, as someone mentioned earlier on here that they’d heard Lerner was coming into the country, but wasn’t going to the game.
Another rumour to back up the original one? I’d suggest so, myself.

Then, there’s the price.
£250 million? Who on earth in their right mind would pay that?
Even a multi Billionaire Oil Baron or Russian Oligarch would baulk at that price, as the truth is we’re nowhere near worth that.
Lerner’s put plenty of money in, granted, but if my memory serves me correctly, didn’t he pay something like £69 million to buy out Ellis?
He also had to buy out the rest of the shareholders, he spent on the Holte pub and continued the revamp of Bodymoor Heath. Say another £20 million at most there.
For roundness, call it £90 million.

Then we have to look at what he’s laid out for players as opposed to what he’s got back and who has a clue when it comes to that?
I’m no expert when it comes to accounts, but I do know the figures can easily be made to look exactly like you want them too, at least over the short term, as long as you don’t break any laws and things add up over time.
Put it this way, I’ve read Accountant Villa fans give their opinions and the truth is, even professionals are as confused as the rest of us.

I read another comment elsewhere that the club is still £50 mill in debt to Lerner.
I’d suggest that’s reasonable, but it’s being paid down fairly sharpish, in my opinion.

And then we have to look at Assets.
Villa park and the Holte pub are worth whatever you can get for them.
No disrespect to Aston, but I wouldn’t exactly call it a desirable area, where you’d want to build a Hotel and shopping complex or whatever. So you’d basically be paying for what VP is; An iconic Premier league ground. I suppose you can’t put a price on that, can you?
Then we have Bodymoor and a pure guess says £10 mill.

We have a chunk of land left that last I heard was worth £25 mill.

And then we have the players. God only knows what they’re worth, but once you take Benteke, Guzan and maybe Gabby out of the equation, I wouldn’t think it’s much at the moment.

I’ll leave you to speculate on what we’re actually worth.

Then of course, on top of the quoted £250 mill, if you were serious, you’d have to pump £50 mill in straight away.

So that’s £300 mill.

I don’t know if this rumour is true or not, but the only conclusion I can draw is that even if it is true, it simply isn’t going to happen, as we’re just not worth it.

So to answer the question posed above, I think it’s utter rubbish.


Comments

107 responses to “Has Lerner put the club up for sale?”

  1. Bill gates(chairman)pep guardiola manager sorted.happy days.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath avatar
      OohAhPaulMcGrath

      Paul McGrath as barman lol

      1. Giddy as barman…hic, hic!
        🙂

  2. Shawcross as capt,over to you ooha it’s wankfest time.bill p for president as he’s been at vp longer than ellis & is older than him.tel j PR guru

    1. Terry does the team talks

  3. Morgan Villa avatar
    Morgan Villa

    Interesting article on Villa Talk, about Lambert The Plan…..The Future, I agree with most of it, however i feel Lambert has to go simply because our tactics are awful. Its well written and offers an argument for the other side. Remember i dont want Lambert as manager I believe the guy who wrote it is close to the club and has revealed we will be getting 2-3 players. These players I believe will be Wes Hoolahan or Anthony Pilkington and a bigger name player such as a Man Utd/city type player to lift Villa Park, the third is rumoured to be a defender. I am not ITK these are bits i have picked up from twitter, other forums but i believe they have been said by the guy who wrote the article. Hoolahan is not a bad attacking player who can get at defenders he would be a good short term signing. Not top level but good enough to change games when needed.

    Like I said read it but do not shoot the messenger for me the turning point for Lambert was when the Spurs fans were chanting You’re Shit and you know you are’ (it hit home that we were in fact quite shit) the nail on the head was the Palace result. This was all confirmed by the Swansea performance. Whichever way you look at it no Home team in the Premier league should have such low possession stats what we have been served this season is abysmal football from an abysmal tactician, even Messi would look shit in a Villa shirt atm

    1. Morgan Villa we have to thank out Tottenham friends for telling him.

    2. MV that piece on Villa talk one of the posters posted this – “any truth in the rumours RL is looking for extra funds by selling shares to an interested party.”

      Anyone else heard these rumours?

  4. Seems we’ve fucked it as a club and have to bare the brunt of bad spending.Cant really blame Lerner for watching the coins……Still with that in mind he is still chairman of sorts or loan daddy whatever he does so he should still have one last pop at it gu on Randy have another go……UTV

  5. Sir Earl Barratt avatar
    Sir Earl Barratt

    The national press are at least starting to question Lamberk’s claims of progress. Note how the club have now gone on a propaganda offensive with a number of players coming out in the press to say how they’re all in it together and that they’ll ‘go again’. This time it’s Gabby’s turn but it was Weimann last week. Get ready for more this week. Lamberk sounds more and more of a twat every time he opens his mouth,

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-up-another-relegation-2970447

  6. How do you make a silk purse out of a sows ear on pennies in a big silk purse making world?Answer is you don’t…….A promotion is offered under strict rules you take it because you feel that you can meet the expectations because of pride……The head honcho is to blame no one else…..UTV

  7. Badger123 Jay Dee post cannot put opinions on, why?

  8. Badger123 avatar

    Bill, comments sorted now.

    BWS, your submission will be up this evening mate.

  9. CARLOS SLIM FOR VILLA