Geoffery Paine has just submitted the following comment. Of course, it’s far too short to use as an article, but it’s a good subject, so I’ll expand on it;
“I’ve just heard that Lerner has said that as the fans want him to go and he doesn’t think he can take the club any further he is putting Aston Villa FC up for sale.
He wants £250 million. What do you guys think about that?”
Apparently, this rumour first came about from a couple of apparently confirmed “in the knows” on VillaTalk.
I haven’t read the actual comments and don’t know the ITKs history, so can’t really comment on what I think of their accuracy.
But I can give my opinion.
First off, the rumour is not new and the price being mentioned is extremely similar to what I heard at least a year ago, probably nearer eighteen months back and maybe two years or more.
The rumour, as rumours tend to do, has got round fast though. I read mention of it on another Villa site and it was mentioned here earlier.
The question that springs to my mind, is how has this rumour come about?
Who at the club would be privvy to such information?
Faulkner, of course and maybe the club’s Lawyer(s), but that’s about it.
Would any of these go spouting their mouths off? I seriously doubt it.
I very much doubt even Lambert would know. Not until any deal is close to being sealed anyway.
Another thought that occurred to me was, was this conversation with whoever heard it done over the phone or a video call?
As to my knowledge, Lerner hasn’t even been in the country for ages.
That’s ok though, as someone mentioned earlier on here that they’d heard Lerner was coming into the country, but wasn’t going to the game.
Another rumour to back up the original one? I’d suggest so, myself.
Then, there’s the price.
£250 million? Who on earth in their right mind would pay that?
Even a multi Billionaire Oil Baron or Russian Oligarch would baulk at that price, as the truth is we’re nowhere near worth that.
Lerner’s put plenty of money in, granted, but if my memory serves me correctly, didn’t he pay something like £69 million to buy out Ellis?
He also had to buy out the rest of the shareholders, he spent on the Holte pub and continued the revamp of Bodymoor Heath. Say another £20 million at most there.
For roundness, call it £90 million.
Then we have to look at what he’s laid out for players as opposed to what he’s got back and who has a clue when it comes to that?
I’m no expert when it comes to accounts, but I do know the figures can easily be made to look exactly like you want them too, at least over the short term, as long as you don’t break any laws and things add up over time.
Put it this way, I’ve read Accountant Villa fans give their opinions and the truth is, even professionals are as confused as the rest of us.
I read another comment elsewhere that the club is still £50 mill in debt to Lerner.
I’d suggest that’s reasonable, but it’s being paid down fairly sharpish, in my opinion.
And then we have to look at Assets.
Villa park and the Holte pub are worth whatever you can get for them.
No disrespect to Aston, but I wouldn’t exactly call it a desirable area, where you’d want to build a Hotel and shopping complex or whatever. So you’d basically be paying for what VP is; An iconic Premier league ground. I suppose you can’t put a price on that, can you?
Then we have Bodymoor and a pure guess says £10 mill.
We have a chunk of land left that last I heard was worth £25 mill.
And then we have the players. God only knows what they’re worth, but once you take Benteke, Guzan and maybe Gabby out of the equation, I wouldn’t think it’s much at the moment.
I’ll leave you to speculate on what we’re actually worth.
Then of course, on top of the quoted £250 mill, if you were serious, you’d have to pump £50 mill in straight away.
So that’s £300 mill.
I don’t know if this rumour is true or not, but the only conclusion I can draw is that even if it is true, it simply isn’t going to happen, as we’re just not worth it.
So to answer the question posed above, I think it’s utter rubbish.
Don;t think Randy will sell but he gave way to the LEMMINGS now he is laughing at them so will go with his own gut instincks next time round. Witch may not be a bad idea if you ask me.As we are reaping the seeds sown by those whom wanted LAMBERK and nobody can argue against that.
we need a football brain on the broad.
I disagree 🙂
Lerner does need to go but he DID have a 5 year plan.. the bloody problem was he didn’t employ a proper football man to run the club.. and sadly for us the FRAUD MoN was incharge .. how much more bad luck can you get.. instead of a forward thinking manager we had that clown in charge. no scouting network.. no looking at talent abroad.. no DoF.. just buying average shit from UK.. Sidwell Reo Warnock Young etc etc.. the man flushed all our money down the toilet..
As fans we thought he was the messiah but sadly it took our club to expose him.. that was our BAD luck.. IF we had a manager with Vision we would be top 6 right now IMO..
More bad luck when Houlier has his heart attack just when the likes of Cabaye were on there way.. Lerner does th moter of all fcuk ups and appoints McCliesh.. he pisses thethe same budget that got Newcastle Cabaye Cisse Ba and Ben Arfa on Given Hutton N Zog and a crocked seasons 40K wages on Jenas.. all players who are still bleeding the club wages and there fees have nose dived.. so another 18M thrown down the toilet.. not to mention the Bent loss and Makoun too.. even when Mcliesh was appointed if we had got in a forward thinking manager we would be better off..
So after all that balls up.. RL decides to do a 360 and start handing out championship wages.. we got a gem in Benteke who kept us up and thn this season we wasted 10M on Helenuis Kozak and Tonev when it could and should have been spent better..
So that is that and it explains why we are in this awful situation..
RL NEEDS to release funds to at least bring in two good loans ( Lescott and Rodwell perhaps ) and a couple of permanent signings.. IF we don’t IMPROVE our midfield in Jan i can see us going down..
Lionheart…well said mate
Lionheart for manager, well put mate.hey Oohah ever seen Johnny Dixon, Franky Broome Billy Goffin, in 1947 we was 6th best in Division, now them was the days Villa was known.
Bill I wasn’t even born then mate lol
Oh shit, I thought you would have seem the best we had, that’s the point I did.
Well put, Lionheart
LERNER OUT
Bill gates(chairman)pep guardiola manager sorted.happy days.
Paul McGrath as barman lol
Giddy as barman…hic, hic!
🙂
Shawcross as capt,over to you ooha it’s wankfest time.bill p for president as he’s been at vp longer than ellis & is older than him.tel j PR guru
Terry does the team talks
Interesting article on Villa Talk, about Lambert The Plan…..The Future, I agree with most of it, however i feel Lambert has to go simply because our tactics are awful. Its well written and offers an argument for the other side. Remember i dont want Lambert as manager I believe the guy who wrote it is close to the club and has revealed we will be getting 2-3 players. These players I believe will be Wes Hoolahan or Anthony Pilkington and a bigger name player such as a Man Utd/city type player to lift Villa Park, the third is rumoured to be a defender. I am not ITK these are bits i have picked up from twitter, other forums but i believe they have been said by the guy who wrote the article. Hoolahan is not a bad attacking player who can get at defenders he would be a good short term signing. Not top level but good enough to change games when needed.
Like I said read it but do not shoot the messenger for me the turning point for Lambert was when the Spurs fans were chanting You’re Shit and you know you are’ (it hit home that we were in fact quite shit) the nail on the head was the Palace result. This was all confirmed by the Swansea performance. Whichever way you look at it no Home team in the Premier league should have such low possession stats what we have been served this season is abysmal football from an abysmal tactician, even Messi would look shit in a Villa shirt atm
Morgan Villa we have to thank out Tottenham friends for telling him.
MV that piece on Villa talk one of the posters posted this – “any truth in the rumours RL is looking for extra funds by selling shares to an interested party.”
Anyone else heard these rumours?
Seems we’ve fucked it as a club and have to bare the brunt of bad spending.Cant really blame Lerner for watching the coins……Still with that in mind he is still chairman of sorts or loan daddy whatever he does so he should still have one last pop at it gu on Randy have another go……UTV
The national press are at least starting to question Lamberk’s claims of progress. Note how the club have now gone on a propaganda offensive with a number of players coming out in the press to say how they’re all in it together and that they’ll ‘go again’. This time it’s Gabby’s turn but it was Weimann last week. Get ready for more this week. Lamberk sounds more and more of a twat every time he opens his mouth,
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-up-another-relegation-2970447
How do you make a silk purse out of a sows ear on pennies in a big silk purse making world?Answer is you don’t…….A promotion is offered under strict rules you take it because you feel that you can meet the expectations because of pride……The head honcho is to blame no one else…..UTV
Badger123 Jay Dee post cannot put opinions on, why?
Bill, comments sorted now.
BWS, your submission will be up this evening mate.
CARLOS SLIM FOR VILLA