Forest – Villa; Hopeful again

So we beat Brentford, beat Southampton and won in Europe again to make it three wins on the trot. Can we make it four?

Just as it frankly amazes me that we’re sixth in the league, given our recent form, it amazes me even more that Forest are actually a place higher. I’m sure that says something about the Premier league this season, but I’m not sure what. It’s probably that most teams have been pretty rubbish.

I really ought to be confident about this game, but I’m not quite there yet. I know results show that we look like we’ve turned the corner and got through a rough patch, yet I have a feeling that the Champion’s league is taking more and more out of the squad. We so badly need to automatically qualify and by-pass that next stage so the lads have a couple of months away from Europe, but then of course, we might be fighting on the FA cup front.

Squad news and Ollie Watkins will have a late assessment. I’m not sure it matters much, because I think Unai will start Jhon Duran, who surely deserves a start? It would however be nice to see Ollie on the bench if we require an option. Jacob Ramsey and Leon Bailey’s fitness hasn’t been updated, so the assumption is nothing has changed and they won’t feature.

Forest don’t have many problems, but Alex Moreno isn’t eligible, which is probably a bit of a loss for them, as he’s apparently been very good, while Ibrahim Sangare and Danilo are both long term injured.

Forest have a very similar record to us this season. They’re on the same points, but have a better goal difference. Not much, but they concede less and score more at the same time. Given that we’ve conceded 23 in 15 games, it’s really not hard to see where our problem lies. It’s in the defence and we need a right back so Konsa can return to by far his best position. But we’ve been saying that for ages and I have a feeling it won’t be addressed in the upcoming window either. Given our position in the CL and even the Prem, considering we’ve been so poor, it’s hard to criticise Emery though, I suppose.

I certainly didn’t expect us to be doing so well in Europe.

All this begs the question of if we don’t buy a right back, what position will be strengthened? Not long until we find out, but you’d expect we’ll get at least one player in.

This seems to me to be a game all about strikers. Duran is going to start, it’s just been confirmed, as is Mings, who will surely be wanted in trying to keep a lid on Chris Wood, who’s on a roll.

This game looks drawish to me and I’m going for a 1-1, which I’d be okay with.

UTV!

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  1. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 December 21, 2024 at 2:33 pm . Reply

    Kept faith with Rogers in my FF team – yesssssss.

    Happy Christmas fellow Villans; victory makes it all so much sweeter.

  2. OLL again
    OLL again December 21, 2024 at 2:44 pm . Reply

    Superb performance today!

    I would include Cash in the list of stars for the job he did on Jack. Two beautiful team goals to enliven MOTD tonight and another remarkable save from Martinez. Now for Brentford to beat Forest by 2 goals and we are back in 4th place.

  3. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year December 21, 2024 at 2:45 pm . Reply

    Everyone watch out, we’ve got our mojo back.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand December 21, 2024 at 2:57 pm . Reply

      How good was that?
      Duran really gives us an edge, Ollie for all his strengths but is no natural finisher?
      Duran most certainly is.
      Keep him and Chesty fit and who knows just how far this team could go?

  4. korean villa
    korean villa December 21, 2024 at 2:51 pm . Reply

    we are the giants of aston. bow down before us mere mortals !!!

  5. little8
    little8 December 21, 2024 at 2:58 pm . Reply

    Yeaaaaaaaaass great win wooo hooo

  6. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum December 21, 2024 at 3:06 pm . Reply

    Brentford hammering Forest would propel us up a place! And come on Palace!!!!

  7. Holte
    Holte December 21, 2024 at 3:58 pm . Reply

    I recorded the game so have just watched it after avoiding phone, radio etc.
    Fantastic win and all the Villa players were minimum 8/10. Tielemans was superb with Rogers, Duran and McGinn all excellent in the timing of their runs. Citeh couldn’t cope defensively. Ortega made an incredible save from Torres which made me worry they would score from their first attack. The only disappointment was conceding at the end which set my heart racing unnecessarily.
    2-1 like last seasons 1-0 looks like they were tight games but both times we should have won by many more.
    Duran is now our number one striker and Watkins has to improve to get back into the side. Durans all round game is improving massively which is all down to the work by Emery and his staff. Hopefully Onana can stay fit because his presence alongside Kamara allows Tielemans to do the creative things he did today.
    Newcastle next away on Boxing Day is a chance to finally get a result at a ground we usually get stuffed. Here’s hoping they have eaten too much turkey!

  8. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 December 21, 2024 at 5:15 pm . Reply

    Team seemed much better balanced today.

    Onana & Kamara sitting in front of a back four gives our defence a more solid look and it releases Tielemans to play a more attacking role where he was superb today. Andy Grey gave him man of the match but he could have picked two or three Villa players for that honour.

    Now, as Emery says, we have to back it up with a performance against Newcastle and avoid our usual Boxing Day blues!

  9. BFR
    BFR December 21, 2024 at 6:37 pm . Reply

    If we’d held on at Forest and Ipswich, and beat Palace and Bournemouth at home – all of which were very close but ballsed up – we’d be top on 37 points.

  10. BFR
    BFR December 21, 2024 at 6:40 pm . Reply

    The 4 proper midfielders was what got us the brilliant results this time last year. It makes such a difference. 2 wingers behind the striker rarely works at this level, maybe against the bottom third teams. Tielemans is not s holding midfielder and showed it today. His and McGinn’s eye for a pass are real weapons and capable of splitting defences. They have to be used much more! If Bouba and Onana can get a run going…but it’s a big if!

  11. BFR
    BFR December 21, 2024 at 6:48 pm . Reply

    Today, 4 of my 7 2017s didn’t play in their 5 a side due to festive family commitments. We had to draft in 4 2018s to fill in. We lost 10-4 (I think) – I stopped counting in the end. My point? When your best, most experienced players are out, it makes a massive impact on everything. Even those 2017s who made it – one of whom is usually brilliant – looked lost and made so many stupid mistakes they wouldn’t normally. It was as if they were thinking ‘what’s the point?’ Now I’m starting to realise how so so difficult it is when you can’t field your best 11. I will moan a lot less when Unai has key injuries in future! He never uses it as an excuse, which is admirable.

    UTV!

  12. OLL again
    OLL again December 21, 2024 at 10:11 pm . Reply

    Steady on, Villans! Before we get carried away – we only just beat a side who, on present form, are headed for relegation! Ho Ho Ho!
    Let’s see how we perform on Boxing Day – usually cold turkey all round. We owe the barcodes some stuffing after last season’s mishap.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 December 22, 2024 at 11:50 am . Reply

      Correct OLL but it’s nice to celebrate such a good performance – I doubt there would be many sides that could have lived with us.

      On MoTD they highlighted the 4 midfielders (Onana, Kamara, Tielemans and Rogers) playing in a box formation whether a diamond or rectangle – that’s how we were set up when we were playing at our best last season. Onana comes in for Luis and Rogers for Ramsey – now we have to keep these players fit and build on today’s result.

      A draw at Newcastle would be a decent result.

  13. little8
    little8 December 22, 2024 at 2:45 pm . Reply

    Yes that midfield is our best just need to keep them all fit
    Newcastle away will be tough but it is winnable

  14. Bum Bum
    Bum Bum December 22, 2024 at 4:59 pm . Reply

    ManU. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Who thinks they’ll be after yet another Manager within a year? The place is toxic.

    1. OLL again
      OLL again December 22, 2024 at 8:09 pm . Reply

      And that is the problem Bum Bum. Like when Villa had Lerner and Zia. Decent managers holding down a job already would look at the owners first, inherited squad second and think the undoubted kudos for getting it right should be balanced by the chance of failure that is not their total responsibility.

  15. OLL again
    OLL again December 22, 2024 at 10:12 pm . Reply

    So Louie Barry is recalled from Stockport. For the benefit of Stockport and our relationship I hope we can loan them another striker – because terminating a loan to a promotion-chasing side is pulling the rug from under them, it is not as if Stockport are not giving Louie game time.
    An odd FIFA rule comes into consideration: a player may only play for the first team of a maximum 2 clubs in any season. So if Louie does make the bench at Villa and come on, he cannot then go on loan to a 3rd team. The BM suggests Villa want to move him up to the Championship.
    I have my doubts about Louie’s physique – nothing else – in the EPL. I think he may be too small and light even for a #10 role – a winger maybe.

  16. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson December 26, 2024 at 3:07 pm . Reply

    Bloody great start a goal down in 90 seconds.

    1. The Ron Saunders Stand
      The Ron Saunders Stand December 26, 2024 at 3:24 pm . Reply

      Anthony Taylor is giving us f*”k all!.

      1. The Ron Saunders Stand
        The Ron Saunders Stand December 26, 2024 at 3:30 pm . Reply

        There’s a circus in the town
        Anthony Taylor is the clown 🎶

        1. The Ron Saunders Stand
          The Ron Saunders Stand December 26, 2024 at 3:33 pm . Reply

          You didn’t need to be mystic Meg to see that coming.

  17. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson December 26, 2024 at 3:51 pm . Reply

    No two games are the same, Please get Rogers to wake up he’s not in the game. It is now a game of 12 against 10 this is not going to plan far from it.

  18. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year December 26, 2024 at 4:58 pm . Reply

    You have to admit that Newcastle had the most effective player on the pitch in number 12, Anthony Taylor.

    1. BFR
      BFR December 26, 2024 at 5:09 pm . Reply

      Correct. Long rant coming later…

      1. BFR
        BFR December 26, 2024 at 5:13 pm . Reply

        But some of our decision making was literally (primary) school boy.

  19. BFR
    BFR December 26, 2024 at 5:12 pm . Reply

    By closing time today, we’ll be 6 points off the top six and Forest look uncatchable, mainly due to their superb defence (Mr Levy, take note). Looks like top 6 has to be the aim, which I’m not OK with.

    1. 1874 was a good year
      1874 was a good year December 26, 2024 at 5:38 pm . Reply

      Forest don’t have the squad. A few injuries in January and they will blow up.

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