Cardiff 3 – 0 Villa; The clamour begins

Oh dear, oh dear, what to say?
I had the game on Radio WM, but the site’s SSL security certificate ran out which meant that you were probably seeing a warning about the site being unsafe. Let me reassure you, it isnt.
Anyway, I updated the certificate, only for the site to crash, which meant I was working on that and didn’t really concentrate on the commentary.

Hence any real assessment is vague at best, but the general tone of the commentary was easy to catch and when you hear “worrying”, “no shape” and “poor” etc, you have to be concerned.

I’ve said previously that our first few fixtures are tough and I hinted that I didn’t think we’d have many points racked up, which would probably lead to fans calling for Bruce’s head.
But from what I’ve seen on various other Villa sites, it seems the clamour has started already.

Now of course, it’s still very early days, but we’re already five points down on the league leaders and you have to wonder how much of a lead we might be able to pull back before it’s too late to challenge.

The most single worrying thing today was the comment that “Cardiff are a very average side, that will finish around tenth at best, yet they still beat us comfortably”.
So where does that leave us?

By the sounds of it, Warnock did his homework and targeted our right side, meaning Hutton had a shocker.
But more worryingly, it seems our defence was utter rubbish today, something I find strange given that we are supposed to have beefed it up. Words like “slow” maybe justify why some of us were concerned by Terry’s signing.
And just maybe my viewpoint about playing our “best” eleven so they get to know each other was also justified?
I don’t know.

As I said, it’s early days. Nothing is certain yet and Cardiff away is never going to be an easy game.
But we have another tough game coming up, away to Reading.
Are we confident that we’ll get anything there?

We need to start gaining points, even if they’re only single one’s because if we don’t, the season will be over before it’s really up and running.

I wonder what Tony Xia is thinking?
No reasonable owner is going to sack a manager this early, but you have to wonder how many poor performances he’ll tolerate.

I’m also intrigued as to how some of our more positive posters are going to react to this result.
I expect some very lively debate!


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  1. Mark
    Mark August 16, 2017 at 1:16 am . Reply

    I may be wrong but I believe Steve Bruce is on a one year rolling contract,which is due for renewal in October. Maybe Tony Xi a will go on the comparison websites and get a new manager in before he has to renew.
    Why didn’t he strengthen the attack knowing that Korea would be out for a couple of months at the start of the season.Hepburn-Murphy is not even chosen for the under 23 team.Also,I hear John Terry keeps returning to Chelsea for an ice bathπŸ˜‚.He has either no connection with Chelsea whilst at our club or they should just get rid if he is not 100 per cent committed.

  2. Mark
    Mark August 16, 2017 at 1:18 am . Reply

    Kodjia not Korea.Bloody predictive text !!!!!

  3. Benno
    Benno August 16, 2017 at 4:46 am . Reply

    Unreal. 3 games in and we have already lost 2 of them. More worryingly though is that Bruce has no idea what his best team is, and the players look like they’ve never played together before. We were just woeful today.

    We sold Baker which was madness and we have 3 right backs at the club, and yet somehow, the player Bruce bought for 3m is the third choice and never gets a look in? WTF is going on??!!

    I cant believe I am so pissed off already.

    1. Martan
      Martan August 16, 2017 at 8:09 am . Reply

      We should of pulled out all stops to get Barry back he’s been here before and will put the effort in why we never got another striker in is beyond me even if it was on loan at the minute we’re a joke not sure Bruce knows what he’s doing!

    GIDDYVILLAN August 16, 2017 at 7:09 am . Reply

    Too pissed off to post post match tbh I’m still reeling, I knew that green miss would be costly not just blaming him far from it but didn’t green miss the free header open goal near the end of the Hull game??? Another poor performance can’t see the doc taking much more I really do think Norwich could be his final game if we get fuckall Norwich are also struggling no excuses off to work I go

    GIDDYVILLAN August 16, 2017 at 8:37 am . Reply

    Just a thought that’s been nagging me, what happened to the team that started the first 7 minutes against hull when we threw everything at them if I can recall 3 shots 2 on target Inc goal & 2corners to then switching off & remained switched off since even the Hull manager thought we had an extra player on the pitch. Don’t make sense

  6. JohnDoyle
    JohnDoyle August 16, 2017 at 9:23 am . Reply

    And now the rags are claiming we are after the prodigal son Jack Wilshere dinosuar bruce must be living in cloud cuckoo land either that or sharing a reefer with abonglehore if he thinks wilshere will come in to villa park and even if he did bruce and his ancient tactics and shower of absolute shyte coaching team would play him as a defending midfielder and coach him til he was absolute shyte with all the magic gone from him

    The next personell that steps through those crumbling doors to villa park should be a new manager who isnt still stuck in 1992, and a coaching team that are adaptptive to 2017 coaching intead of of sitting with the players watching homes under the hammer because i swear thats all this coaching team must do at the minute because they are def not coaching this shower of utter shyte to play attacking football, to pass forwards meaningfully or even defend.

    And while we at it get rid of the other dinosuars wyness round etc its jobs for the boys there pulling people out of retirement homes they are so old and so out of touch that they probably need a nurse to wipe the shyte from their backsides and get dressed in the morning a clean out is required otherwise charlie chan is gonna loose all of his money and you wait and see he will get bored and pull all his money out and next thing we will be like blacburn and the venkys selling everything so they can upgrade their chicken operations

    And today i read spud head comes out saying expectation is too high at villa and we all got to excited at terry cominh. You fu ckin what you sack of shyte? Expectation too high we sit 23rd in fizzy pop league beaten by fu ckin cardiff city and reading the two greats of english football but our expectation is too fu ckin high i swear to god this whole thing must be one big sick joke he really believe s we were euphoric in this transfer window signing terry whelan elohamondy samba jesus fu ckin christ spud head put down the crack pipe and start seeing what is happenin nobody was euphoric about that shower coming into villa park in fact most new that this would happen shitty players on their last legs needing zimmers plus your ancient management style that went out when the dinosuars became extinct equals this total shower of absolute SHYTE that you have served us to us and led us being the laughing stock of football

    Look at teams like huddersfield they take the game to the opposition they are not frightened to lose like some little sicssy in the corner of the playground they play fast they play hard they give it a go it is like we have 11 westwoods on the field and for the players we sold who were never given a fu ckin chance a moore brother provided an assist against us, matt lowton not good enough for the villa got an assist against chelsea, marc albrighton made an assist against arsenal all in last week i could go on but its clear what is happening at villa bastard park, its a meal ticket destination for all these old has beens and dinosaurs coming for one last big pay day at charlie chand expense, get rid of all the young players and buy in a load of has beens and that goes from the top to the bottom of the club its like the old boys club of 1992

    1. langfordvilla
      langfordvilla August 16, 2017 at 11:21 am . Reply

      This post is funny lol…..:) πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

      1. JohnDoyle
        JohnDoyle August 16, 2017 at 2:13 pm . Reply

        It wasnt meant to be funny but im sorry i sholdnt swear as much but i am hirting and hurting really bad and the thing that gets me people are on this forums and other forums cant see or even smell the coffee the proof is there for all to see brhce is failing and failing badly but still some say give him time give him time he has had transfer windows he has had most of last season he has brought in many (shyte has beens) players, i wouldnt mind if he was serving up good football and we saw some passion on the pitch but we not even got that the reaults are shyte the play is shyte the effort is shyte the players and playing shyte but people like i say before will be at villa on saturday taking ridiculos selfies munching on burger clapping away even when we are losing and still licking bruces fat arse simply because he has a record

        We are playing as poorly as i can wver remember and i have been to hundreds and hundreds of games including all games for my son who is now grown up and let me tell you this the manager for the scholl team had his team better organised and playing better and that is a bunch of 10 year old there only payment a can of juice at half time and the pride of wearing their school colors and then we get shytes like abonglehorn making more in 1 week than most earn in a year weedling himself up to bruce and you no bruce will hand him a new contract soon just because his wife baked him some pies and he got invited to abonglahorns house for some coca cola and a bosh of the happy crack

        And bruce i just cant believe it Dr Zhivago should listen to his mincey softly geordie speeches after the game and think that if bruce thinks we are over expectant with that big puffy face and big dog eyes looking softly at the camera then it is not the job for him, we should expect the very best fu ckin cardiff top of the league they spent peanuts and scouts that actually work hard our scouts must enter these grounds when they go scouting with a stick and labrador.

        But my big worry is dinosaur bruce pulls a couple of lucky wins out the bag now and then everyone says bruce is the man again he is not, he has failed simple as that and he needs harpooning now and put out of the club because we will finish no higher than mid table or less with this old shyte bag in charge

        Our villa is now a complete joke team and it again needs a big overhul to make this mess better and as i say i hurt every day just thinking about it

        And no wonder wenger has said wilsheree is staying he probably wanted him out in load found out that villa were intersted and disnt want him to come back at end of the season with his skill gone and even fatter and lazier than he is now everyone knows villa park is now a place like a scrap heap only for old has beens and people stealing a living some of them players should be taken to court for fraud as they inpersonate footballers

        1. langfordvilla
          langfordvilla August 16, 2017 at 3:53 pm . Reply

          JD….So fecking funny mate. Should have been a stand-up comedian!

          Cant stop laughing…some of your phrases are pure brilliance mate!

          πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

      2. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson August 16, 2017 at 2:13 pm . Reply

        JohnDoyle, mate classic that, i went to a show on a ship last week and the comedian was Dave Dolye and he was brilliant, the way you put it over is also brilliant and the truth, a load of old wash up shite players, good one.

    GIDDYVILLAN August 16, 2017 at 9:53 am . Reply

    Wenger just stated re wilshire ‘I plan on him staying here for the rest of the season’.

  8. Morgan Villa
    Morgan Villa August 16, 2017 at 12:26 pm . Reply

    Tony Xia not saying much. You have to ask what Steve Round, Wyness and Calderwood are doing. The one good thing about this window is the squad clearout.

    Bruce is a dead man walking, the owner needs to get rid of him along with Richards, Hutton, Gabby and Bunn. Villa is crying out for a fresh start and it wont happen until all of the relegated squad have gone

  9. bws
    bws August 16, 2017 at 12:50 pm . Reply

    Listened to the game on WM and for 80 minutes it sounded woeful, no idea going forward, disorganised, no shape, too much distance between the midfield and the forward line, well just about everything was wrong.
    Then the last ten minutes it sounded like the penny dropped, the team showed some spirit and fight, got one back and pushed hard for the equaliser.
    This is all from radio commentary and someone who was at the game might have seen things differently, Reading thought job done and took their foot off the gas and let us back into it?
    But then again perhaps that 10 minutes may be the green shoots of recovery?
    Who knows?
    We can but hope.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 16, 2017 at 4:59 pm . Reply

      I think our away form is a disgrace. If we best Norwich it means nothing as home firm was ok last year. But away nothing has improved not even slightly

  10. Villain1
    Villain1 August 16, 2017 at 1:56 pm . Reply

    Bruce saying the fans got carried away with Terry yet 3 weeks ago he described Terry as the best signing of the whole summer window. He’s started covering his own back, absolute disgrace.
    I hate it when we lose but id take a heavy defeat v Norwich is it guaranteed him leaving for good. Of all the shit managers we’ve had over the past few years, he is the worst by a mile. Makes Mcleish look good

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 16, 2017 at 4:55 pm . Reply

      Terry was a waste of money there was no reason to sign him our defence was good enough last season and he has made no difference whatsoever. It was obvious he would never really cope in this division he has to defend the full 90 mins where at Chelsea the kept possession for long long periods so defence was never under as much pressure plus he had great players around him.

  11. JohnDoyle
    JohnDoyle August 16, 2017 at 3:26 pm . Reply

    My biggest fear is that spud head will get a bullet deliveres by Charlie Chan and then wyness will either recommend another has been for the new manager positions l saw a drawing on a website of one of them kids rides with the little glittery horses going up and down round and round karosels at the fair ground and on them horses were moyes fat sam pardew and all the other has beens riding it and riding it for one more paycheck if i was there inwould want an air rifle and just pick the off one by one and then shovel the shyte into bags for the management graveyard because they were ok at once, but football has left them behind and it worries me spud head will be gone and then charlie chan gets advised by rotund wyness to give moyes a job and next thing he is signing sunderland and everton shyte all the old boys again.

    We need a new young man with fresh ideas not another old fart whose tactics are as texhnical as ‘move it up from the back to the wings, lad on wing nobs it in to striker to back peg and striker nods it in’ and for defending ‘just keep it tight lads’ that may have worked 20 years ago but football like life has moved on and yes its hard even for dinosaurs like me but i no when i joined up to tweeter to write charlie chan a letter and my son said i tried and my son said you cant have any more words than that and i dont undertand why you weite about 10 words and thats the limit so i just wrote ‘your board is your biggest fu ckin problem you halfwit’ but he never write back so i leave it for youngsters these days to comunicate may as well be in morse code whatnsort of sight stops you writing a letter after about 10 words types thank god for forums like these and facebook where my lad can have it up for away the games sometimes for me

    I am sort of glad kogija is injured a very good player but a greedy fu ckin bas tard but he would have got some goals and papered over holes this seasin so far, and it was he who basically papered over spuds holes last season him and jedyunack again another who lost the legs but he does have spirit and passion these 2 single handed saved slud head last seaaon. the rest of the other scissies just want to look good in their farreris and big posh cars and run around with tarts but to me they look like little soft boys with their tight fanny boy jeans and whacky hair cuts and girly friendship bangles but with some good coaching and management some of them would be ok and i would forgive them for looking like fannys if they just put in a shift for our beloved villa

    But in my day you turned up in ireland on the job looking like they dontoday and youd get your fu ckin arse kicked and if you disnt put in a shift youd have the foremans steelcaps planted up the old spincter and youd soon pull your finger out problem these days these footballers are pampered like heaven aint ever seen

    i have ranted enough today i hope i dont uoset people i try not to swear in this letter as much butbforgive me and my bad spelling because there is some nice people on this fourm board who just want villa to compete and play decent football like me, while i read in other forum boards people are delided sacks of absolute shyte and still having a fuc kin big huge love in with that useless spud head

    My dear wife says i should rant more on these dorums because she said ‘john im sick to fu ckin death of hearing yer moan now about that shower of absolute shyte you support’ and told me to go and watch our irish leagues if its so bad, the she said so no more villa talk in our house she said im also banned on goverment talk so that only leaves talk about cornation street and the irish club down the street but thanks for listning to my inane mumblings

    One more thing before i go indo not blame charlie chan at all he seems to come to villa to achieve good things and he has put his chinese yen where his chinese mouth is, but he dint help when he put all the deluded cloud cuckoo stuff about the champions leagues and all the simbols he puts on that tweeter my boy shown me, but he has been mis guiderd by them useless chumps who call themselves fancy names sat in fancy offices and thats where the problems start if you have chumps like that in upper positions then that feeling is fed down to everyone else and that is in football that is in every busieness. Charlie chan put down those fu ckin chopsticks and take out your thimb from your arse crack and fire all those useless bags of utter shyte around you because they have failed you the most so far.

    1. villaawayindiv3
      villaawayindiv3 August 16, 2017 at 4:08 pm . Reply

      Good on ya John……does ya missus say you will stop talking ya will ya will…lol

  12. bws
    bws August 16, 2017 at 4:53 pm . Reply

    Many punts from the back here??
    Yea football’s really moved on (more money, more hype and whole lot more bullshit)

    1. Hitchens 60
      Hitchens 60 August 16, 2017 at 6:14 pm . Reply

      What a side that was – oh for a Dennis Mortimer today

      1. bws
        bws August 17, 2017 at 12:57 am . Reply

        Mate I get well pissed off with the wonders of modern football.
        What I’d give for a time machine and go to a match between 74 – 82.

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