Buendia and Mings injuries put dampener on expectations for the new season

Should we be surprised that the last week has changed a positive out look to one that ranges from measured to desperate?

A week might be a long time in politics but for Villa fans it’s just four days with ACL injuries to two key players and an embarrassing drubbing by our arch enemies from the North!

Whilst not all fans agree over Mings qualities he is a vociferous leader on the pitch and will be sorely missed. The stats don’t lie – when Mings doesn’t play we just don’t win . Since the arrival of Emery, he has probably played his best football for Villa and his partnership with Konsa was arguably the best centre back pairing in the EPL last season. Replacing him is a massive challenge for Emery and his staff

With Buendia and Mings out for the season, it also means Villa have to spend money on positions they thought were already filled which, due to FFP, may affect their ability to reinforce other positions.

Emery is on record as saying he wants two players for each position – is that now feasible particularly if FFP is a challenge and given that  loan deals for players of sufficient ability may be difficult to achieve. 

Take the Zaniolo deal for instance. According to reports Villa wanted a season loan and option to buy whereas Galatasaray are insisting on a loan with mandatory purchase and a share of any onward sale. Further reports suggest that Emery has insisted that Villa get the deal over the line.

Sky are suggesting Villa will let Digne, Bailey and Coutinho go if good offers come in for them to balance FFP although, it seems, we are also content to retain them in the squad – although I question that’s the case with Bailey.

It’s recently been reported that Monchi is looking at young La Ligua players for both full back positions – lower cost and lower wages with the opportunity to develop them.

In addition Villa are selling Aaron Ramsey on the basis of a buy back provision within two to three years – again is this a sign of needing to bring in money now to balance the books?

Whilst we have extremely wealthy owners who have been brilliant in funding Villa to date, the implications are that without the levels of revenue enjoyed by the ‘elite clubs’, attempting to challenge the top six is severely restricted by FFP.

So should we put away the euphoria of qualifying for Europe, Emery’s meteoric impact and the successful pre-season and be concerned about the season ahead?

I, for one, think overcoming Buendia and Ming’s injuries will have a significant effect on our season and it wouldn’t surprise me to see us struggling in the league  – particularly with Ramsey and Moreno also out until late September at the earliest – as did West Ham last season for similar reasons.

Emery will, no doubt, go all out for a trophy and may now see this as the best opportunity to qualify for another European campaign rather than through the league.

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  1. badger123
    badger123 August 17, 2023 at 12:33 am . Reply

    Apparently, we’ve knocked back a £10 mill offer from the blades for Archer.
    I reckon £13-14 mill could see him gone, but with a buyback clause.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sheffield-united-boss-offers-firm-27534294

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum August 17, 2023 at 12:13 pm . Reply

      £10m!!!!!! That is an utter p!$$ take!!!! Especially in today’s market. £20m absolute minimum!!!

    2. BFR
      BFR August 18, 2023 at 1:48 pm . Reply

      It wouldn’t surprise me if Archer fires them up the league while we flounder. BIG mistake to sell in my opinion, unless we can have him back after a year, similar to the deal Citeh did with us for Douglas. And if we do sell, I’d be absolutely staggered if a quality attacker didn’t arrive, considering Villa’s schedule this year.

  2. OLL again
    OLL again August 17, 2023 at 11:44 am . Reply

    The chief football writer in the Times said of the VAR decision in the United Wolves match. “the badge on the shirt is the deciding factor”.
    The FA aren’t prepared to hand him a disrepute charge – because they know he will have the evidence to back it.

    I can’t see any reasons beyond corruption and the fact that the decision was wrong when VAR at St James had no lines drawn. I ran the line for 20 years and that develops almost a 6th sense about offsides. Mine told me the goal scored from a free kick involved an offside, not by the scorer, but by the player who passed to the scorer. the VAR still, without lines seemed to prove it.

    1. BFR
      BFR August 17, 2023 at 2:59 pm . Reply

      Yep. It’s up to AVFC (and others) to pursue these ‘officials’. The fans know it, but the power the clubs weild must be exerted, otherwise nothing will change. The media also have a great role to play; they need to do more and blow the lid off the whole thing. Apathy never changed anything in this world.

      The conspiracist in me also wonders how far the tentacles of Saudi power and money reach in the context of what happened on Sunday.

    2. RSS
      RSS August 17, 2023 at 8:57 pm . Reply

      If there is any substance to these accusation of Refs and VAR possibly being bent then what we need is some whistle blowers.

  3. BFR
    BFR August 17, 2023 at 3:02 pm . Reply

    At the very very least, AVFC owe it to their fans, manager and players to ask the question to the PL: where were the f****** lines? And why were they omitted from the review and analysis? The same question goes to the clowns in the Sky Sports studio who completely sidestepped the matter.

  4. Gerry
    Gerry August 17, 2023 at 3:51 pm . Reply

    Was it like other sports where electronic assistance was not available and in those cases the referee’s/umpires descision cannot be overuled. It looked totally wrong but we move on

  5. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year August 17, 2023 at 9:45 pm . Reply

    So it’s Hibs in the play-offs. Somewhat nearer than Luzern so I’d guess a lot of Villa fans will be making the trip up North. Not only that but John McGinn can have a family get together too.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 2:03 pm . Reply

      Will be a tricky tie.

  6. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 2:08 pm . Reply

    See the Zaniolo transfer is being renegotiated because of concerns over muscle injury risk.

    Who made the Anderton Esq. comment?

    1. RSS
      RSS August 18, 2023 at 2:23 pm . Reply

      All my work Hitch (:
      But seriously, have a gander at this, it’s not the best.
      https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/nicolo-zaniolo/verletzungen/spieler/392085

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 3:26 pm . Reply

        Yep – looked at that – think you posted the link previously.

    2. RSS
      RSS August 18, 2023 at 2:45 pm . Reply

      “Even if Zaniolo has passed his medical, the English club fear that the Italian’s previous two knee injuries would affect his fitness in the long run, making him more exposed to muscle injuries.”

      (https://football-italia.net/sky-aston-villa-put-zaniolo-deal-on-hold/)

      Be very suprised if this happens.

      1. Hitchens60
        Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 3:25 pm . Reply

        Me too RSS.

        Lots of mixed messages – one suggests the conditions to meet to convert from option to mandatory buy have been changed to include a minimum number of appearances.

        A simple loan / option to buy wouldn’t be an issue.

        1. BFR
          BFR August 18, 2023 at 3:46 pm . Reply

          Surely, there are better options the club can pursue? ‘Monchi has signed him before’ sounds like an extremely weak reason for Villa to sign him. We’re in the market because of injuries so to sign an injury-prone player to cover the injuries sounds like the bad decision-making is beginning to ‘infect’ the club again after so much progress. Do not sign this guy. Better off breaking the bank and signing Felix from Atletico (including his wages, which he’d have to reduce).

          1. Hitchens60
            Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 4:28 pm . Reply

            Good idea BFR – 2 problems – wages and he doesn’t want to join Villa 🙂

  7. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson August 18, 2023 at 3:59 pm . Reply

    Just read this on Twitter 8 minutes ago Another in the bag for Aston Villa and Unai Emery, Nicolo Zaniolo is a fully signed up addition to their squad ✔️🇮🇹 #AVFC

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 4:30 pm . Reply

      Still not on OS Bill

  8. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson August 18, 2023 at 7:45 pm . Reply

    I know there been some saying he’s injury prone Hitch and idiots playing silly sods about it, just got back from our static in Cornwall and bloody hell drinking with Steven Saunders played with David Platt at Crewe , Looking at wiki he in his day was with Bolton, you never know who your rubbing shoulders with , showed me pictures of him and platt saying they are mates still, the stories they got up to it’s a wonder they still ever played .

    1. RSS
      RSS August 18, 2023 at 11:38 pm . Reply

      I was on holiday in Turkey a couple of years back talking to a fella that played with Platty as a kid…
      He said he was truly awful, the worst player in the team!
      Crazy how life pans out 😁

      1. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson August 19, 2023 at 9:42 am . Reply

        Might be the same lad RSS.

  9. Holte
    Holte August 18, 2023 at 8:22 pm . Reply

    It’s official! Zaniolo has signed. It seems to take an eternity to get players through the door these days.

  10. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year August 18, 2023 at 8:36 pm . Reply

    Zaniolo signs.
    https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/18/Villa-announce-Nicol–Zaniolo-signing/

    I suspect that there were some last minute demands from Villa. I suspect that Monchi is a little more hard nosed than others we’ve had.

    1. Hitchens60
      Hitchens60 August 18, 2023 at 8:45 pm . Reply

      Agreed 1874.

      I suspect we played hardball with the medical and Zaniolo’s injury history particularly as Galatasaray have already got his replacement in!

      My main concern is that he seems to have fallen out at Roma and there’s a suspicion that the same has happened at Galatasaray given he only signed for them earlier this year.

      On the plus side he’s known to Emery and Monchi – only time will tell.

      1. 1874 was a good year
        1874 was a good year August 18, 2023 at 10:04 pm . Reply

        From the BBC –
        ‘Villa will pay a £4.25m loan fee and there is a “conditional compulsory purchase option” in the deal. If certain criteria are hit, they will pay £19.2m plus £13.2m in possible add-ons to make Zaniolo’s move permanent.’

        As I said, some last minute demands. I’d guess that one of the criteria will be the number of games he plays. So, I’d guess that if he does get injured we should be able to sent him back to Galatasaray.

        1. RSS
          RSS August 18, 2023 at 11:28 pm . Reply

          He’s supposed to be another level (if he can stay fit) so fingers crossed 🤞.

  11. Hitchens60
    Hitchens60 August 19, 2023 at 12:47 pm . Reply

    This is an interesting read; I like Emery’s honest appraisal and his refusal to accept injuries as an excuse.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12942850/unai-emery-interview-tyrone-mings-injury-tactics-and-psychology-after-newcastle-and-why-he-is-still-aiming-high

    1. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum August 19, 2023 at 9:47 pm . Reply

      What a truly wonderful human being Emery seems to be. Pragmatic. Paternal. Optimistic. Realistic. Positive. Professional.
      We are so lucky to have him.

  12. 1874 was a good year
    1874 was a good year August 19, 2023 at 4:56 pm . Reply

    Watching Zaniola’s interview on AVTV, he was saying all the right words and his confidence in his own abilities shone through which was good. However, it was seeing him next to Emi Martinez (who is the very definition of a ‘unit’) that surprised me. I hadn’t realised that he quite such a physical presence. At 6′ 3″ and not far off 13 stones having someone like him in our attacking half might provide something that we’ve been lacking to date.

  13. Holte
    Holte August 19, 2023 at 5:35 pm . Reply

    We’re not bottom of the league. Thank you Wolves 😏

  14. badger123
    badger123 August 19, 2023 at 7:42 pm . Reply

    Zaniolo might not be as bad as some of us might be expecting.
    Certainly this article is encouraging;

    https://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2023/8/19/23833815/what-can-aston-villa-fans-expect-from-nicolo-zaniolo-galatasaray-new-signing

  15. RSS
    RSS August 20, 2023 at 6:24 am . Reply

    More dodgy refereeing…
    That Bin dippers pen?
    A “Centurion throw him to the floor” moment.
    An absolute joke .

  16. Holte
    Holte August 20, 2023 at 12:13 pm . Reply

    Is it a must win game today?
    I certainly think it’s a game we can’t afford to lose. With Hibs up next and then a tough game away to Burnley, we need to turn things round before the impatient section of our fan base start to get restless.
    I hope Philogene gets the call ahead of Bailey because we can’t keep playing with 10 men every week. Personally I think we should stick with Cash and Digne for when we are expected to be on the offensive. You would expect Konsa to start so then it’s either Torres or Carlos. So probably Torres because of him being a left footed player who offers a natural balance. Also McGinn needs to play the number 10 role as he was wasted on the left hand side last week.
    I think we can win this if we get on the offensive early so I’m predicting 2-1 🤞

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