Bristol City 1 – 1 Villa: Not good enough.

I watched this, but actually managed to miss our goal and the highlights of it, somehow; go figure.

Either way, it doesn’t matter.
Why we started with Samba in a back three against a well known lively Bristol attack, is totally beyond me and you have to call Bruce’s tatcics out here.

The disaster was corrected after about 20 mins, but it put us on the back foot from the off.

The simple question is, who looked the better side today?
It wasn’t us, by a long chalk, in my opinion and while we came back into it later on, we never deserved to win that game.

And While Bristol won’t be challenging for the league title, on that showing, they’ll finish higher than us.

And that isn’t good enough!

They had shape and more importantly, a plan.
Whereas we seemed devoid.

Big shout out to those who were there, as they deserved a lot better than what they got.


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  1. Andrew
    Andrew August 28, 2017 at 3:16 am . Reply

    Good god are people mentioning Crouch on here? Crouch isn’t even good in the air, he’s lanky, he can hardly jump. Unless he’s towering over some short guy, he won’t win headers for us like Kodjia can. He is actually semi-decent with the ball at his feet, but he’s a big No on the getting a new striker and him being it front. We mine as well should’ve kept Gestede.

    If we absolutely need a striker and one that can hold a ball and is strong. Ashley Barnes should be it. Not that Burnley would sell or we could offer the money they’d want. Ulloa off Leicester wouldn’t be bad. He’s not the big, strong guy fans seem to want but a goal scorer nonetheless.

  2. nath
    nath August 28, 2017 at 8:30 am . Reply

    i have no idea who is available and fits the criteria. but I think its a awful big ask to burden Davis alone with this role. as I said other day the strikers we have currently, are players that enjoy getting behind defences. not the hard stuff,like having your back to goal working your socks off to develop moves. its unglamorous role, plus you take kicks for fun and pick up plenty knocks or injuries.

    we will probably soldier on with no more incomings. they will try to reduce the number of players if anything. but just a thought couldn’t McCormack do this role. he did a much similar role at previous clubs. played as a second striker, much deeper. surely if you have a player, that could be beneficial to your cause and you cant sell him you must use him if hes still at the club.

    in preseason he still looked off pace some, but he did look to have tried some. what happens when window closes, will he be sat on his own away from the squad or involved if he is still at the club.

  3. langfordvilla
    langfordvilla August 28, 2017 at 7:04 pm . Reply

    Ok then, just as you wish. I’ll drop Pulis and substitute him for Dyche, happy now?

    So you now have your 2 in De Boer and Benitez and I’ve got Hughes and Dyche. So now I have 8 points and you have 3, happy now you’ve robbed me of 3 points?

    BTW….be a sportsman and have the courage of your convictions, its only banter!

    And, BTW I’m not the only one who’s seen you ‘wax lyrical’ about De Boer and Benitez MORE than anyone else.but, hey ho… can perhaps convince yourself (but nobody else) that you didnt!

    Embrace and enjoy!

    You never know who Benitez and De Boer will sign before Thursday….My 2 are at a distinct disavantage in that respect!…..

    Good Luck

    International break

    1. langfordvilla
      langfordvilla August 28, 2017 at 7:07 pm . Reply

      The above is for *******ANDREW**********,

      1. Andrew
        Andrew August 29, 2017 at 12:20 am . Reply

        Oh and why would I give you Dyche when i clearly stated he’s the only British manager I’d take at Villa? Other than Rodgers anyways.

    2. Guest
      Guest August 28, 2017 at 7:14 pm . Reply

      With respect, Benitez is a far better manager than Bruce.

      1. Andrew
        Andrew August 29, 2017 at 12:11 am . Reply

        Every English manager going doesn’t have the combined success of Benitez. He’s miles better than all of them.

    3. Andrew
      Andrew August 29, 2017 at 12:10 am . Reply

      I don’t think I talked about De Boer much, but I’d still take him. Yeah he was poor at Inter and have been so far for Palace but I’d back him and Benitez all day. I don’t care who you choose lol. I wouldn’t be surprised if either Palace or Newcastle went down. Especially Palace. Absolute awful side.

      I’m just not sure what you’re even doing lol. Is this a contest of British managers vs two foreign managers I mentioned in the past because if it is… I’d recommend a therapist lol.

  4. jvillan
    jvillan August 28, 2017 at 8:01 pm . Reply

    with respect you couldnt get a much more out of date manager than bruce

  5. Villain1
    Villain1 August 29, 2017 at 12:05 pm . Reply

    This international break would be the ideal time to make a managerial change…. if the club wait til the next one we’ll be too far behind again. Mistake after mistake being made, will this club ever learn

  6. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson August 29, 2017 at 1:41 pm . Reply

    Can i ask you something? do you have an thing about Bruce because in my mind its far to early for any manager to be judged at this stage, we’ve gone through them bad months and its only fair to any manager to give them time. Some say two years but being a big club like us we want it now ,I have to admit I’d like it to be but knowingly we can’t. Villian1 be patience give him that respect and lose that personal dislike of him. Your a Villa fan, please act like one.

    1. bws
      bws August 29, 2017 at 4:20 pm . Reply

      Jesus Bill what’s all that about?
      V1’s probably bigger enough and ugly enough to defend him/herself but from what I’ve read in the above comment it’s just a case of expressing an opinion and isn’t that what this Villa forum is about?
      And where in the above is SB slagged either professionally or personally?
      Lanford’s better fan syndrome must be contagious.

        GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 4:49 pm . Reply

        Where the fuck has anyone claimed to be a better fan???? I haven’t seen it maybe you could enlighten us where & what remarks made to justify that comment stirring the shite springs to mind

        1. GIDDYVILLAN
          GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 4:56 pm . Reply

          Ps I suppose it’s an upgrade being called a superior fan from being called a c##t

          1. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:18 pm . Reply

            Fuck me if ain’t Giddy the hardest fucker in cyberspace (who still lives at home with his mom!)
            You are Lenny Small to Langfords George Milton and too fucking dense to see it!!

            Kiss my hairy arse.

          2. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 5:24 pm . Reply

            And that’s not fucking personal badger AV a word he’s pissed up on a can of carling fucking wussy lmfao

          3. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:31 pm . Reply

            What is that in English?
            Can’t handle your piss?
            How is the leg Lenny?

          4. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 5:36 pm . Reply

            Unlike you smacking the missus around cus she’s smaller get help

          5. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:45 pm . Reply

            To busy fucking ya mom Lenney.

          6. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm . Reply

            Giddy Langfords little bitch and too thick to realise.

          7. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 5:56 pm . Reply

            You obviously like fucking the dead then sick fucking perv

          8. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:57 pm . Reply

            Least I got one to smack Lenny.
            Lenny it’s supposed to be your umbilical cord that attaches you to ya mom not ya cock!

          9. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 6:02 pm . Reply

            Oh right so that’s from experience obviously only a sick mind would think that

          10. Bws
            Bws August 29, 2017 at 6:13 pm . Reply

            Lenny found a site that’s right up your alley…

      2. langfordvilla
        langfordvilla August 29, 2017 at 5:16 pm . Reply

        BWS….you been on the cooking sherry again? Why are you so obsessed with me…..are you about to use the ‘C’ word on Giddy again. Pathetic! And don’t bother to accuse me if stirring this conversation up!

        1. bws
          bws August 29, 2017 at 5:24 pm . Reply

          You really have poisoned this site you insidious little man.
          I would love to meet you, I seriously would.

          1. langfordvilla
            langfordvilla August 29, 2017 at 6:01 pm . Reply

            BWS….stop googling big words….I knew this would happen when wifi became available in Broadmoor! Lol

            Wardern, put this man on bread, water….and lots of tranquilisers. Its easier to put a horse to sleep FFS

          2. Bws
            Bws August 29, 2017 at 6:27 pm . Reply

            Stop hiding behind other posters you cowardly little prick.

        2. langfordvilla
          langfordvilla August 29, 2017 at 5:32 pm . Reply

          Lol…..and your attack on Giddy’s family is despicable, the lowest of the low. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself!

          1. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 5:38 pm . Reply

            At least I ain’t a nonce

          2. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:43 pm . Reply

            I really would love to meet you.
            A sad sad school ground bully that drags other people in to fight your corner,
            Giddy, Gibby that nasty bws is picking on us go sort him out.
            You’ve got an hard on now ain’t you you sad sack fucker?

          3. langfordvilla
            langfordvilla August 29, 2017 at 5:45 pm . Reply

            What a weird dude….whats the weather like in Broadmoor? Lol

          4. GIDDYVILLAN
            GIDDYVILLAN August 29, 2017 at 5:49 pm . Reply

            Billy Wank Stain I bet your little black books filling up nicely oooohhhh scarey lmfao

          5. bws
            bws August 29, 2017 at 5:50 pm . Reply

            Aint what I heard Lenny.

      3. Bill Pearson
        Bill Pearson August 29, 2017 at 5:21 pm . Reply

        I never thought that BWS, he might be a she? He or she keeps going on about getting rid , i don’t so that’s my take on the matter BWS, we know we haven’t a Jose, or Arsene, but we have a Bruce lets not kill the man yet give him a go at least. Im getting worried about you two Langford never is far from a conversation in posts we will have to have a drink together one day or even a coach trip to Wembley cup final.

  7. Bws
    Bws August 29, 2017 at 6:22 pm . Reply

    Lenny and George busy typing away…
    Dear Badger that nasty bws is being really mean to us please ban him so that we can carry being the biggest pair of swinging dicks on the site.
    Sad pair of bastard’s.

  8. badger123
    badger123 August 29, 2017 at 8:09 pm . Reply

    That’s it, BWS, you’ve given me no choice.
    You’re banned mate, at least for a while.
    Shoot me a mail when you think you can keep your cool, but don’t bother before a week’s up.

    Any more of it from anyone else and they’ll be banned too; no ifs and buts.

    To be honest, I’m close to just shutting the site down totally, as it’s falling into disrepute, imo and I just don’t need it.

    1. Saddened
      Saddened August 29, 2017 at 10:52 pm . Reply

      Jesus i have had the name Saddened on here for a few years, because of the downfall of our club, it now seems this site has gone the same way, people insulting each other for pleasure…..Why ??

      Badger I salute you mate as you have more patience than me, keeping the site running and thanks, but I think i may give it a wide berth for a while !!

  9. Villain1
    Villain1 August 29, 2017 at 8:10 pm . Reply

    What a load of old bickering. Ultimately I’m not sure what exactly Bruce has done in the last 11 months to justify the backing of any true Villa fan.
    I’ll be honest, I never wanted Bruce for multiple reasons, all of which are now manifesting themselves, the negative and cautious approach to games, the narrow minded old school British approach to coaching, the wastage of money on transfers, the short termism just to name a few However, despite this the board chose their man and have given him fair time and opportunity as a manager, particularly given the trigger happy nature of the industry today. However, the truth is he has failed, again there are too many issues to list, for starters breaking up the one positive of last season, the CB partnership of Chester and Baker to accommodate a past it Terry and useless out of contract Samba, who was then used embarrassingly as a centre forward against Hull. Secondly, buying Scott Hogan for nearly 15m and using a system that leaves him entirely ineffective. I could go on…

    Ultimately, lets be honest, the clubs that are successful are ruthless. We are “too nice” a club and unfortunately nice clubs don’t succeed. Its the same reason Arsenal have fallen behind the top PL teams with their blind loyalty to Wenger, another manager now well past his best (albeit in a class light years above anything Steve Bruce has ever offered).

    All we are doing now is delaying the inevitable, the 5 games so far put us averaging a point a game, and whilst I think the run rate will improve slightly, it won’t improve enough for the top 6, never mind the top 2. You need to string together wins to get out this league and we haven’t done that once in the last 11 months, mainly due to our inability to win away games. I’m afraid given the financial advantage and resources over the rest of the league, that is unacceptable. Again, this isn’t a personal attack on Bruce, its needing a change to get the right person to deal with the expectation and pressure and someone with an actual vision.

  10. Owen
    Owen August 30, 2017 at 8:50 am . Reply

    I Think Bruce has enough to get us to 6th place but that’s about it. But he might not get the chance if we are not up to around 14/15 points by the time we played 10 games. We’ve got a very strong squad. Especially now Snodgrass can go right wing and Elmohamady can go to RB with Hourihane supporting the front man and Jedinak and Whelan in front of the back four. Hogan, Lansbury and Bjarnason will be pushing too. No excuse for Brucey not to at least scrape the play offs.

    1. Andrew
      Andrew August 30, 2017 at 6:00 pm . Reply

      Jedinak and Whelan is too defensive, and there’s no point to dropping Onomah at the rate he’s going.

  11. Guest
    Guest August 30, 2017 at 2:58 pm . Reply

    Cor it’s really kicking off on here, come on boys play nice.

    Back to footballing matters, if we sign Peter Crouch i’m done, that would be the most pointless signing i can possibly think of, when Rashford broke thought at Utd, they played him whenever possible, why would we hamper Davis’ progress, i’m sure Agent Bruce is trying to dick us over.

  12. Owen
    Owen August 30, 2017 at 9:50 pm . Reply

    I think that Jedinak and Whelan both needed in midfield our midfield has been too lightweight since 2011. They’ll make sure we have lots of the ball for the forward players to exploit .

  13. Andrew
    Andrew August 31, 2017 at 12:54 am . Reply

    It’s not so much it was lightweight as it just wasn’t good, and that was because we never had an out and out defensive midfielder. You only need one in the team, alongside a player that will work hard but can push the ball forward. Hourihane, O’Hare, Doyle, someone of that nature. Then the attacking mid behind the forward.

    1. Owen
      Owen August 31, 2017 at 9:04 am . Reply

      I sort of agree but we are very flimsy in midfield and I wonder with Bruce whether he’ll always play Whelan as he seems to like him despite his indifferent start. Jedinak will always play. He’s the real captain and leader of the team. Onomah played well in a central role against Colchester He could play with Jedinak and Hourihane in midfield. At home you are right, we shouldn’t need two defensive Mids. But away where we are terrible I reckon Jedinak and Whelan might just start together regularly. Good that Bruce has options. Could be Elmo and Snodgrass on the right and Taylor and Green on the left for a while as well.

      1. jvillan
        jvillan August 31, 2017 at 9:38 am . Reply

        we are turning into hull rejects chester elmo snodgrass, sorry only 1 should be playing chester
        ,burnley bournmouth both went up and kept most same players in pl,of bruce favourite starting 11 how many would we keep

        1. Owen
          Owen August 31, 2017 at 2:32 pm . Reply

          Elmohamady has been decent tbf. Crouch rumours gathering pace!

          1. jvillan
            jvillan August 31, 2017 at 3:28 pm . Reply

            this is elmos level, twice relegated shows,even chester wasnt rated by pulis for top level

          2. Andrew
            Andrew August 31, 2017 at 7:27 pm . Reply

            Think you’re being a little harsh on Chester, JVillan. He’s not the best but he’s more than adequate for a lower-end Premier League side, let alone the Championship. We have to face it, until we make changes overall to the entire club, we’re going to be going for the experienced Premier League/Championship players, whether they’re good enough or not.

        2. Villain1
          Villain1 August 31, 2017 at 3:12 pm . Reply

          The signings we’ve made are so lazy, where is this so called scouting network with Steve Round and co. What scouting do you need to sign John Terry, Samba or Snodgrass. Its just Bruce and the old boys club again.
          Have to say its depressing and hard to stomach watching West Brom signing top class international players like Krychowiak while we’ve got Glenn Whelan. Just hits home as to how far this club has fallen over the past decade. The journey back is an absolutely mammoth one and it emphasises the need for a better manager and coaching staff to pull us out of the deep hole we are hovering over.

          1. jvillan
            jvillan August 31, 2017 at 3:30 pm . Reply

            look at
            bournmouth making 25m twenty five million pound bids
            swansea signing lad from bayern munich
            west brom you mentioned
            we are reduced to 36 year john terry on a free,giving hutton new contract

          2. Andrew
            Andrew August 31, 2017 at 7:31 pm . Reply

            Been claiming that since we signed Bruce, that we’d be going for solely British-based players that he knew. Which makes him a mediocre at best manager. It’s not even about how much he spends (and we all know he’s spent a hell of a lot, between transfers in January and especially on wages), but it’s on who he signs.

          3. jvillan
            jvillan August 31, 2017 at 7:38 pm . Reply

            by time chester gets back to pl if with us,he will 29 ,2 years out of pl so cant really see how he will be fit to pick up pace again,seen somewhere to day blues top wage earner on about 10 thousand a week ,snodgrass,jedi lainsby all on over 40 thousand a week here never mind elmo whelan terry and rest of new signings

          4. Andrew
            Andrew August 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm . Reply

            I think Chester could last a season or two in the Prem. As I said, he’s a lower-end of the Premier league defender. But he can hang.

            I know, our wage bill hasn’t gotten smaller, it’s drastically getting bigger, which our fans don’t get also plays into FFP. FFP is everything, transfer fees, wages, utilities, etc, etc, etc. We’ve wasted a lot of money this summer on wages for crap players, and even in January on Lansbury, I completely agree.

          5. jvillan
            jvillan August 31, 2017 at 8:19 pm . Reply

            chester and if he would play bree are probably 2 of our only defenders that i would keep if we got promoted

  14. Owen
    Owen August 31, 2017 at 5:11 pm . Reply

    Still think the team can make playoffs but that’s it. If we can sneak back up we’ll be able to sign better players. Bruce under loads of pressure though.

    1. jvillan
      jvillan August 31, 2017 at 5:34 pm . Reply

      the doc will need a fortune average players now from 10/20m ,goodplayers 20/30 m we will need a minimum 7/8 that type of player

  15. DSVilla
    DSVilla August 31, 2017 at 6:49 pm . Reply

    A few games from now I expect Bruce will be just another ex-Villa manager. That’s what I thought before day 1 and I don’t see any reason to change my mind.

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