Ellison rumour true ?

Well today’s statement from Lerner is for me a clear signal he is off. It is a deeply personal statement with no PR BS. Added to this are the clear facts of the debt to equity swap which was first revealed exclusively on here and I said at the time he was selling.

So I have been seeing with some amusement the fantasy about Larry Ellison, the 5th richest person a possible and frankly thought it was BS. Well it is known he likes his sports and been involved in a wide range of sports from Tennis to boating. It has been rumoured that he has tried to buy NBA and NFL teams as well.

Now through the wonders of Google I see no link with football (or Soccer) at for Ellison but I found one piece from 2005.

I believe Randy would only sell to someone he knows and trust and I can not find any direct ones, then I remembered something and THIS PIECE shows it.

Now you will have to bear with me on this, this piece is about someone trying to set up a NFL team in LA, a Carmen Policy, so what ?

Well he used to work for Al Lerner at the Browns when they were set up and Randy would know him, you ask so what ?

Well Policy knows Larry Ellison (who like Lerner is Jewish) and he also knows Casey Wasserman (also Jewish). you may now be thinking, Wasserman, I recognise that name. Yes because Wasserman Group as revealed on the forerunner blog was employed by Lerner to sort out the playing side and agents at Villa.

Policy is a key person in Randy’s Dad life and thus Randy’s life, he is a facilitator of sports team buying and organisation. Who knows if rumours of Ellison are true but this is clear that it is possible.

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  1. billys boots
    billys boots April 20, 2014 at 11:30 pm . Reply

    just something a bit left field here, was at silverstone today and while i was having something to eat at the table behind were two motor racing journos, and i overheard them talking about football and one said to the other that the proposed takeover at villa wasn’t a takeover but a £250mil investment for a percentage of the club i couldn’t see which paper they were from their badge just said press, this seasons doing my crust in

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 20, 2014 at 11:46 pm . Reply

      They would want a huge per centaur for that amount prob 99% at least 🙂

      1. Bum Bum
        Bum Bum April 21, 2014 at 10:56 pm . Reply

        Wow. Imagine if our entire squad was made up of centaurs! How cool would that be? Other teams would shit themselves!!! Unless they field a team of minotaurs…

        1. Colonius81
          Colonius81 April 22, 2014 at 11:41 am . Reply

          lol

  2. Axel Foley
    Axel Foley April 21, 2014 at 4:44 am . Reply

    Ellison supossedly has no use for organized religion… Doesn’t consider himeself Jewish aside from lineage. Just thought I’d throw that out there…

    1. Rawlie
      Rawlie April 22, 2014 at 7:02 am . Reply

      Me neither. I like him already! When can he start? LOL

  3. DSVilla
    DSVilla April 21, 2014 at 10:50 am . Reply

    So we were being bought by Arabs, then Chinese, then Red Bull, now more Americans or even Russians. Despite Lerners odd statement I still can’t see it.

    Buy the club for, say, £200m. Then the same again to take to a level where Top 4 is a realistic prospect? That’s big bucks and I just don’t buy it.

    Lerner would sell if he can get the right price, but I can’t see it.

  4. Astonb6
    Astonb6 April 21, 2014 at 11:22 am . Reply

    The source that broke the news of take over last week on the bells are ringing is claiming he knows the name of new owner and will let people know very soon.

  5. Astonb6
    Astonb6 April 21, 2014 at 12:03 pm . Reply

    Ray Davis and bob Simpson joint wealth of 4b $

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 12:07 pm . Reply

      Who?

      1. Bum Bum
        Bum Bum April 21, 2014 at 10:57 pm . Reply

        Bloke from The Kinks.

  6. Astonb6
    Astonb6 April 21, 2014 at 12:11 pm . Reply
    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 12:15 pm . Reply

      Just been on there using link I can’t find the names just a load of admin teasing everyone

      1. Astonb6
        Astonb6 April 21, 2014 at 12:23 pm . Reply

        It names them on page 2 of the link this blokes post have all been spot on if he is making it all up he must be pretty lucky so far

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm . Reply

          Well if true I’m underwhelmed tbh. Can’t see these guys gettjng us chsllanging for top 6. They are all about frugality the same as Lerner

          1. Astonb6
            Astonb6 April 21, 2014 at 12:30 pm . Reply

            Thought the same myself mate

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 12:39 pm . Reply

              News gets worse and worse

          2. You don't know what your doing
            You don't know what your doing April 21, 2014 at 12:32 pm . Reply

            Its no good knocking people until 1. They actually take the club over and 2. They let everyone know there plans.
            Just think of the positives.
            No more Lerner or Lamberk!
            Lets just wait and see.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 12:40 pm . Reply

              Well they found like Lerner clones and their plans will never equal fans expectations. 4 billon is a lot if money but peanuts in the prem league. Remember that’s dollars not pounds. Gutted

          3. Colonius81
            Colonius81 April 21, 2014 at 10:11 pm . Reply

            ah ‘mon oohaahh they havn’t even taken over and they are already as bad as lerner!
            Lads lets just all wait and see shall we

            Fulham have a new owner, and he is worth more than Lerner and probably spent more than us this season ( havn’t checked) yet .. there they stand.
            they even signed Bent on loan! a player Lambert was slated for not playing.

            we need a little perspective, lets just wait and see before the condemnations

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 12:21 pm . Reply

      Onviously Ellison rumours are bollox

      1. ianrobo
        ianrobo April 21, 2014 at 12:42 pm . Reply

        and the rumour on a site no one had heard of a few days ago is correct ??

        In fact the Texas Rangers one had been around for a couple of weeks so lets not be fooled by them eh ?

        Wait and see eh ?

        I have to say for one any owner that renames Villa Park will never see me down the place again, no money is worth that.

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 1:00 pm . Reply

          Hope it’s that Ellison bloke

  7. Spencer
    Spencer April 21, 2014 at 1:10 pm . Reply

    This may just be clutching at straws because we are playing over there pre season.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 1:13 pm . Reply

      Could be. I hope it’s not true but knowing our luck it probably is

  8. badger123
    badger123 April 21, 2014 at 1:30 pm . Reply

    Bloody hell Ooaah, you can hardly start slating the blokes before they’ve even got here.

    While I agree in the scheme of things $4bn isn’t that much when you compare to some, it’s still a massive amount of dough and at least four times that of Lerner.

    Reading that site, the one thing I do find encouraging is the fact that Simpson surrounds himself with good people. Hopefully that’ll mean Faulkner straight out the door and someone who actually knows something about footy coming in to run the show.

    Nothing against Americans, but I’m not keen on the way they do business.
    Which is all the Villa will be to them and I wonder about their motives.

    The biggest bad point about them is one of them donated to the George W Bush museum or whatever. Enough said.

    The fact is under Lerner we’ve stagnated or indeed gone backwards.
    Things could be better, they could be worse under new owners.
    But at least they won’t be what they are now.

    Don’t forget many of us asked for Lerner out, so we can hardly complain.

    Of course, this is all assuming that the story is true.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 3:01 pm . Reply

      When the news of lerner taking over broke I said to anyone that will listen it will end in tears.Of course the new owners start with a clean slate and no doubt a 5 year honeymoon period. Yes they will arguably do better than lerner but anyone that donates to Bush is way down in my estimation. The bottom line is american owners look at the bottom line more than anyone, they are buddies with lerner and even though they have more money its still no where near enough. Im in local speaking to a load of villa mates I know and even though they think its an improvement on lerner its still not going to be enough.

      1. Andrew
        Andrew April 21, 2014 at 5:03 pm . Reply

        The fact you’re claiming 4 billion isn’t enough is rather pathetic. 4 billion is a lot of money, and no we obviously wouldn’t be doing a City but get over it. It’s a lot more money than Lerner has, and getting people in who would rather understand what the supporters really want, than having an owner who wants us as a play-thing, who wouldn’t care about us if financial trouble ensues again is far better. We don’t need an owner willing to spend 250m on transfers as soon as he gets here, but there are still talks of a possible rich Russian owner going around so who knows what’s going to happen. But a 4 billion dollar worth 2 owners, who are known for getting good men into their back team who know what they’re doing is what Villa need to stabilize.

        1. Andrew
          Andrew April 21, 2014 at 5:13 pm . Reply

          Just seen this off a Villa fan in Dallas who follows the Rangers and Villa. He has this to say about the owners;
          “They are quiet people so we shouldn’t expect many interviews off them, they will want to field a competitive team. The Rangers general manager has reportedly said whenever he has asked for funds he has never been turned down, this doesn’t mean we will spend ridiculous amounts but we can expect investment if the takeover commences.”

          1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:29 pm . Reply

            A competitive team to them is a mid table team. Sounds like Lerner Mark 2. I’m sorry but totally underwhelmed. Yes we will finish higher and have a better team than now but to be fair they won’t need to spend much to achieve that. Problem is too many fans happy with mediocraty. Well I’m not I’m sick of us being a mediocre club with a small club mentality.

          2. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:28 pm . Reply

            It’s almost sad how you’re making up these “facts” that fans are happy. Don’t be disillusioned by a few positive comments as happy with how the club’s doing. I doubt Lerner’s happy (despite these made up “facts” that he’s just happy with staying up), Faulkner’s probably happy he has a new job, Lambert’s possibly happy he still has a job but dislikes where Villa is. Fans aren’t happy, just because you read a few posts from 5-10 fans, out of the MILLIONS that Villa actually has, should never base it off that. A few thousand cheering the players doesn’t mean they’re happy, but are supporting them because basically that’s all fans can actually do.

        2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:25 pm . Reply

          Yawn. Didn’t we all say Lerner knew what he was doing initially. As long as you are happy with being nothing more than a top 8-12 team with a good cup run thrown in every now and then then fair enough. For me that’s not good enough either we are going to mix it with the top 4 or we are not. If we are not then I don’t see the point we may as well stick as we are. Remember it’s £3b in English money. Peanuts

          1. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 6:54 pm . Reply

            3 billion in English money is peanuts? Especially when one of them sold their recent oil business for over 40 billion? Who knows how much he’s actually worth.

            A man worth 3 billion can definitely take us to fighting for top 4 if a man worth 1m nearly did it. With United in shambles, needing a hue overhaul of a squad, big players rejecting them, I can see big managers rejecting them too, they’re still going to be in the shit. Wenger and Arsenal aren’t out of the question of being caught with a smart investment and a good manager. Everton are also matchable with said investment. One thing though is we don’t want a Spurs situation. A manager that wants these 5-6 players, and a director of football who goes out and signs 5-6 players the manager has no interest in and it all goes to shit, like Tottenham have. Wise investment like at Liverpool, with a brilliant manager like Rodgers, and we can become that top 4 fighting team, despite only being worth 3 billion pounds, if that’s even true with one being an oil tycoon.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:58 pm . Reply

              Utd have a £150 m to spend in the summer and already have class in their team. It’s different now as well as we have everton spurs and city to beat on top of usual top 4. Very difficult unless tens of hundreds of millions are spent plus a top managerial structure

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm . Reply

              Forbes states they are only worth that. 4 billion is not peanuts to u and me but it is in football terms.

          2. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:04 pm . Reply

            United have class in their team? Look at their team.

            Good goal keeper.

            Rafael’s a decent RB, no back up. Has played Smalling and Jones who both are terrible RB’s.
            Best CB in Vidic is leaving for Inter. Evans and Jones are good CB’s, Smalling’s incredibly questionable. Buttner’s a mediocre LB, Evra’s a terrible LB. Carrick’s had a poor season. Cleverly’s garbage, Giggs should retire permanently, Fletcher can’t handle 90 minutes. Valencia’s a one trick pony that’s been found out. Nani’s had his worst season yet. Young’s hated by 95% of United fans. That leaves Kagawa who is wanted by other clubs, Mata, Rooney and RVP (the latter of which hasn’t shown up this season at all), Hernandez who’s most likely leaving and Welbeck.. They need more than 150m for the drastic overhaul and to get a new RB, CB, LB, at least 2-3 CM/DM’s, 3 wingers and possibly 1 more striker. They were rejected left and right last summer, do you really think even with the money they’ll attract anyone now? Especially with no CL? They’re fucked for the next couple seasons. It won’t take tens of hundred’s of millions to reach the CL.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:33 pm . Reply

              You forgot januzai who’s good. Bear in mind it’s virtually the same team that win the league at a cantor last year. The main difference is saf had Rvp fit and getting them out the shit. Utd will spend huge they can’t afford to be out the CL

          3. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:07 pm . Reply

            Forbes does state that, by he’s an oil tycoon, merging his business for 30-40 billion. Something tells me he has more than that.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:37 pm . Reply

              Well I hope so he’s going to need it to turn us around that’s for sure

          4. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm . Reply

            Not really, it’ll just take more than a season and 500 million pounds on transfers to do it. 3 billion pound owner? Can easily turn us around, that’s 3 times what Lerner’s worth and the fact he offers up at least 20m every season, 60m a season could be offered. 😉

  9. belcs
    belcs April 21, 2014 at 2:50 pm . Reply

    Rather than simply looking at net worth, you have to take into consideration the model and strategy of potential new owners.
    Positive is they seem like self made billionaires rather than Lerner who inherited his dad’s fortune, so they should have more business sense.
    The most important factor will be the appointment of a strong CEO and manager, and this will indeed give us an indication as to the new owners ambitions. If they go down the route of bringing someone like Cortese in and appoint a non-British manager that plays good football and can make astute signings, then the net worth will not be such a big issue.
    I’m just so glad the Lamberk-Lerner-Faulkner trio of doom are almost gone.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm . Reply

      moyes to be sacked I wonder if fergie will recommend mclown like he did for lerner!!

      1. Andrew
        Andrew April 21, 2014 at 5:06 pm . Reply

        Probably not. He’ll most likely tell United to go for Simeone, Klopp, Blanc, Guardiola… Because well, that’s how he rolls. He wants his incredibly talent-less friends to have big jobs still though so he recommends them to lesser clubs that are still too big for them.

        A lot of Villa pages on facebook are asking the question of “would you take Moyes at Villa now?”… So would you? I personally wouldn’t, taken over or not, but would you?

        1. Ardent Villain
          Ardent Villain April 21, 2014 at 5:54 pm . Reply

          Oh how we all laughed when Wigan’s chairman said that Roberto Martinez was too good for Villa!

          The Everton fans I know are now saying that Moyes was actually pretty crap – wouldn’t play youngsters, wouldn’t take any chances, etc.

          It now looks as if there’ll be a lot of managers leaving their present clubs in a few weeks – Moyes, Pellegrini, Pardew, probably Lambert, maybe even “The Special One” – so the close season may be more interesting than usual.

          1. ianrobo
            ianrobo April 21, 2014 at 6:00 pm . Reply

            No Moyes was not crap and he played plenty of youngsters but short memories prevail …

            As for those going, do not see it at NUFC as Pardew is the cover for Ashley

            as for the rest, depends which ‘top class’ managers become available, actually the reality is that there are few of them.

            Where would we fall, well in the middle group, either looking for an up and coming manager or an established old hand who has not made it to a ‘big club’.

            I have no clue who, texans with no knowledge of football would pick or they would pick to advise them as well, which may be the crucial aspect of it.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:31 pm . Reply

              He did play youngsters wayne Rooney springs to mind. I wonder what happened to him!!

          2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:30 pm . Reply

            Wouldn’t mind mourinho lol

          3. ianrobo
            ianrobo April 21, 2014 at 6:36 pm . Reply

            Barkley, Coleman and plenty of others. Some fans I am afraid look at say Southampton and think, yes thats the model. Well that manager had come from a club who sacked him for being nearly relegated would we want Mel Pepe on that basis ?

            We may take a risk and I am sure Klinnsman name will be mentioned a plenty but it all depends on who the owners pick to advise them.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:53 pm . Reply

              I just think we need a foreign manager Ian. Scottish managers don’t work out at villa.

          4. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 6:49 pm . Reply

            But he didn’t play Barkley, he actually played Neville as a DM when their fans were screaming for Barkley to be played and should’ve been played. He doesn’t have this history of giving youth a chance and that’s the problem with Moyes. He gave one or two a few games here or there but that doesn’t mean he regularly was willing to give them that chance. He at least bought them so he does have the eye for talent. Moyes had a lot of shortcomings that Everton fans knew about well before he left, but of course they were backing him as they were regularly “close but coming up short” for 4th, as we were under O’Neill, then O’Neill left and fans started claiming he wasn’t near as good as most gave him credit for as other clubs fans loved him at us, but Villa fans were getting fed up. It’s easy to see what he “did” as a fan of a different club, much like “bigger” clubs fans and O’Neill.

            Klinsmann recently signed a new deal with the US so his name going around means nothing. And hell, they could actually have “knowledge” of the game,

          5. billys boots
            billys boots April 21, 2014 at 7:38 pm . Reply

            we cant win at home so you want mourino who has never won there you couldnt make it up lol

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:58 pm . Reply

              What do u mean just coz he’s not won at vp means nothing. He has the best home record in the planet that’s a fact

          6. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:47 pm . Reply

            We should get Mourinho. He’s just as terrible in interviews, he calls ref’s biased against Chelsea, and his tactics are incredibly defensive. Hell, he might bring Cahill back too!

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:59 pm . Reply

              But he would attract bigger name players and put the club on the map. He’s a media darling

          7. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 8:02 pm . Reply

            Couldn’t careless who he can attract, his interviews are a disgrace, his touchline actions often piss fans off, wouldn’t want him representing Villa in anyways, shape or form.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 8:53 pm . Reply

              You’d rather have lambert then!!

          8. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 9:24 pm . Reply

            If that’s what you’ve taken from that statement… Then… I’m lost for words other than this post.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 10:10 pm . Reply

              I get what your saying about Mourunho he is getting more embarrassing by the week. But he is a huge name still and even if we had him for one season it would give the club credibility.

          9. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 10:22 pm . Reply

            Media’s turning though. They love talking to him because he’ll say anything as he’s an attention hog, but behind he’s called a disgrace by pundits and such.

            I don’t know if he’d give us credibility, as media and fans of other clubs would claim he’s desperate for a job, no big club would want him. Players might give us a better chance if he was here, but not sure if that’s true.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 11:10 pm . Reply

              How can u say no big club would want him, Real Madrid, inter etc. Utd would probably take him they deserve each other. It’s irrelevant anyway he wouldn’t come to us unless we offered him twice what Chelsea have and he would want ridiculous money to spend. He also prefers london. Who would you like then assuming we could have anyone

          10. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 11:51 pm . Reply

            I didn’t say he can’t get a big club, but his credibility would go down the drain joining us, is what I said. Claims from other fans and media he couldn’t get a big job if he came to us. Realistically when he leaves Chelsea he’ll go back to Inter. Wanted the move before leaving Madrid and said that was his only home and he loved it there more than anywhere else.

            Anyone? Simeone or Guardiola. I’ve named a bunch we should look at before realistically, and with more money any of them would be great.

            Going realistic, how about Ronald Koeman? He wanted to come when we sacked O’Neill and before we got Houllier. Still wants the big move to England, No problem giving youth a chance it seems, plays some decent football.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 12:15 am . Reply

              Hard to say about mourinho as if he was successful with us ie won us the league and CL then technically we would be seen as a big club anyway. If he failed then fair enough. Not sure who I’d like except I hope we get a decent foreign manager and not a Scottish one

          11. Colonius81
            Colonius81 April 22, 2014 at 12:50 am . Reply

            I was one that was particularly annoyed by whelans comments! laugh i did!
            Well Martinez has certainly shown us and fair play to him.
            I really doubted his credentials, i just looked at all the games he lost and the last gasp wonder runs at the last minute that was always going to run out of luck one season.

            He gets a very decent squad and makes some fantastically shrewd loan signings and boom he is a point within champions league with 4 games to go playing great football, developing players winning neutral admirers from all corners.
            an Fa cup with Wigan, all be it while getting relegated, (with the resources and constant rebuild every season) while playing some quality football should have convinced me!

            His is too good for villa right now. He would be daft to come here.

            But football is a topsy turvey world, maybe we might get new owners with more financial clout but more importantly with better footballing advice or appointments behind the scenes. Maybe if Lambert proves unsuccessful ultimately with serious money behind him for a change?
            maybe if Evertons financial weaknesses result in player turnover and there are no more shrewd loan signings to make the villa project might tempt Martinez then.

            lol we can all dream! but let me be the first to write a Fuck you Dave whelen comment on here if we do!

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 3:26 am . Reply

              Good post Colonius. I think Martinez has proved a lot of people wrong me included. But can he get that 4th spot by his own admission they bottled it at home to palace. To be fair the structure of the team was already there under moyes but he just added a few shrewd signings and took them up a notch. Also different singer different song he is quite charismatic whereas moyes isn’t. I can’t imagine him coming to us even if we had money to spend he will need to stay at least one more season at Everton to prove its not a fluke. I also think he will be waiting to join arsenal if wenger quits.

          12. Andrew
            Andrew April 22, 2014 at 12:58 am . Reply

            Martinez wasn’t too good for us, nor is he now. Dave Whelan would’ve done anything to keep him, until they went down, because he knew it was bound to happen and Martinez was gonna leave when it happened. I didn’t believe in his credentials either, but it looks like he’ll get a lot of money this coming summer, outside of loans. So he won’t come.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 3:30 am . Reply

              I actually don’t think pep guardiola could succeed at villa the way things have been. Sure we would of played better football but I don’t think we’d be any better than where saints are. No manager could make us a top team under Lerner that’s a fact. If we got someone like Ellison and pep guardiola with big money to spend then yes we coils easily be a top 4-6 side then kick on from there.

          13. Andrew
            Andrew April 22, 2014 at 3:37 am . Reply

            True, but Guardiola would be my dream coach, obviously under better circumstances. I’d say someone like Simeone would work perfectly with the team we have now, obviously we wouldn’t win the trophy, or fight for the title like Atletico, but he likes the big, strong striker, have some decent wing play, and so on.

          14. Andrew
            Andrew April 22, 2014 at 3:39 am . Reply

            Yeah, Martinez will have bigger clubs after him, if not in England with say, Arsenal, possibly United, then in Spain, Germany or Italy.

        2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:26 pm . Reply

          Iv seen that about moyes. My answer to that is a few years ago yes but not now. No more Scottish managers. I want to see a good foreign Mananger like a pochetino come in.

          1. Ardent Villain
            Ardent Villain April 21, 2014 at 6:51 pm . Reply

            Isn’t that the simple, obvious reason why Ferguson ‘recommended’ Big Eck and Moyes?

            There can’t be many more Scottish managers left nowadays who’ve ever won anything other that their mickey-mouse competitions…!

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:56 pm . Reply

              True. Wish we had Brendan Rogers. Liverpool will build a dynasty under him I can see it coming. It will last 20 years or so then utd take over. Historically that’s what seems to happen

          2. Andrew
            Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm . Reply

            And Liverpool aren’t doing it like City or Chelsea. Okay they have I believe a 90m net spend since taken over including under Kenny’s management, but they aren’t spending huge money. They got in people who knew about the sport, they’ve successfully run a huge MLB team in the US for ages, and they’ve changed the system. That’s solely what Villa need, a Liverpool style take-over, and the two Texas Ranger’s owners, who brought them back from Bankruptcy and took them to the World Series twice, can have that kind of impact.

  10. markdrapernumber8
    markdrapernumber8 April 21, 2014 at 3:55 pm . Reply

    Trust me this is all bullshit, I was there

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 3:57 pm . Reply

      what is bullshit?

  11. GIDDYVILLAN
    GIDDYVILLAN April 21, 2014 at 3:58 pm . Reply

    On a brighter note the SCUM are 4 down at halftime. 😮

  12. #HELENIUS
    #HELENIUS April 21, 2014 at 5:22 pm . Reply

    Its a combined wealth of £7b +. Simpsons an oil baron. But then who cares what their wealth is. Don’t mean they can/will spend it. I can’t be any more uninterested in the hearsay atm. Oh and Tom Hicks (ex Liverpool) is the director of Texas Rangers

    1. COE1982
      COE1982 April 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm . Reply

      Tom Hicks used to own Texas Rangers until I think he filed for bankruptcy, don’t believe he is still a director there?

      1. #HELENIUS
        #HELENIUS April 21, 2014 at 5:35 pm . Reply

        Its what I just read but probably wrong.

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 6:30 pm . Reply

      I saw that about hicks. Would that be allowed. Good news then we can be Liverpool’s feeder club

  13. #HELENIUS
    #HELENIUS April 21, 2014 at 7:07 pm . Reply

    That same ITK site have now said Lerner has had a bigger and better offer from somebody who has already been mentioned (Ellison) – dear me, they’ll be reporting Ellis has made an offer next too!!!

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain April 21, 2014 at 7:21 pm . Reply

      I’m just really puzzled why any of these people would want to be involved with English football – let alone the Villa.

      A couple of Arab princes with so much [easy] money pouring out of the ground that they just can’t spend it fast enough or don’t know what to do with it, OK – another toy for a few years. Russian or Asian ‘billionaires’ with a need to launder their pillaged billions, well maybe.

      But hard-nosed business-types who actually ‘invest’ in businesses usually do so with the expectation of some financial return: if they tried to match either Man City or Chelsea’s spending [& ignore ‘fair play’ rules] now and it took [say] half a billion dollars over five or more years, well the Sky money and even winning the CL would hardly provide a return on that investment…

      1. Andrew
        Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:32 pm . Reply

        Possibly they actually like the sport, the club? I mean just because Wikipedia doesn’t claim they do, doesn’t mean they don’t. Possibly because Villa do have a big following in the US that they’re hoping for the Villa fans to jump on the MLB team fanbase and give them a chance? Exposure for whatever other companies they own? Huge sponsorships? It is an interesting question as to why they’d wanna invest, a few good reasons but who knows?

      2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm . Reply

        But it would put a huge value on the club and we would get huge sponsorship deals and more of the global market. Also their normal business gets huge publicity.

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath April 21, 2014 at 7:34 pm . Reply

      That’s more like it nearly 60 billion Messi and Ronaldo to vp lol

  14. Jason Selleck
    Jason Selleck April 21, 2014 at 7:30 pm . Reply

    Ihor Kolomoyski,the Ukrainian multi-billionaire and current owner and president of Ukrainian club Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk is interested in getting his hands on Aston Villa but he would want to install current Dnipro manager and ex-spuds Spanish manager Juande Ramos as manager.

    1. Andrew
      Andrew April 21, 2014 at 7:40 pm . Reply

      The way Dnipro plays (well from the few years I’ve seen them in the Europa League), they’re actually quite fun to watch. Attacking football with pace, something that works incredibly well in the EPL.

    2. Colonius81
      Colonius81 April 21, 2014 at 11:16 pm . Reply

      where are you getting that from Jason?
      do you have a link?

    3. Andrew
      Andrew April 22, 2014 at 3:43 am . Reply

      Forbes considers him to be worth $3b as of 2012. While the same time Korrespondent believes he’s worth more than doubt that at $6.5b (according to Wikipedia).

  15. #HELENIUS
    #HELENIUS April 22, 2014 at 9:39 am . Reply

    http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=3bcbacb52740178aa08d81df5&id=2b821c2bdf

    More rumours from that site…..LAMBERT HAS LEFT….!!!!!!

    My head is mush, its worse than any normal end of season rumour mill!!!

    1. BWS
      BWS April 22, 2014 at 10:13 am . Reply

      nothing to support that anywhere else but with moyes getting the sack the timing would be perfect.

      1. GIDDYVILLAN
        GIDDYVILLAN April 22, 2014 at 10:20 am . Reply

        Pure speculation mate like you say perfect timing with moyes now gone.

      2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 10:36 am . Reply

        No way do we want moyes. Utd got rid of him because they don’t trust him with £150m to spend in summer. It will be MON part 2 ffs

        1. Guest
          Guest April 22, 2014 at 11:30 am . Reply

          Hardly.

          Moyes did a fantastic job at Everton and whoever took Man Utd over this season was destined to fail.

          Nothing is good enough for you, a Chairman with 4 billion dollars isn’t enough, is considered peanuts apparently, Moyes not good enough as manager, your expectations are out of control.

          1. belcs
            belcs April 22, 2014 at 11:42 am . Reply

            We need a non-British manager. Whilst Moyes in no doubt better than Lamberk (then again who isn’t), he is still dour and plays shit football. By appointing a non-British manager the new owners will have my support.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 12:20 pm . Reply

              Spot on Belcs he is another overrated myth like mon. Look at Everton under moyes solid but full and boring. Under Martinez solid but with swashbuckling flair. I rest my case

          2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
            OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 12:18 pm . Reply

            Moyes cannot be trusted to spend £150m that utd will have for summer players. Why should we trust him with our money Ffs. He did ok at Everton but even with a better squad of players is struggling to finish top 6. He cannot handle big names and assuming we will have a lot of money to spend no big names would work for moyes. If he coukd t attract them at utd he will not attract them for us. Also his Everton teams although solid played some of the most boring football ever. Now under Martinez they play some of the best. He has never won a thing and has never beaten a sky 4 team away Ffs. Even lamberk and mclown have achieved this. Like lamberk he has given them most unwanted records ever. Moyes no thanks

          3. markdrapernumber8
            markdrapernumber8 April 22, 2014 at 12:42 pm . Reply

            Ahh I see we’re already talking about this then.

            No to Moyes for me I’m afraid. Worked wonders at Everton on a budget that’s true but I have to say I’m firmly for the continental managerial appointment this time round. It could be the fresh start we’re all hoping for…

          4. Guest
            Guest April 22, 2014 at 1:17 pm . Reply

            Because no continental managers have failed in England right?

            And Rodgers has done such a bad job at Liverpool too ….

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 1:53 pm . Reply

              Rogers inherited a decent team. He inherited Suarez, Henderson, Gerrard etc. And he added to it and took them to the next level like Martinez at Everton did but he had 2 world class players to build team around. Fergie was a one of. We need a continental manager if you look at Chelsea, city, arsenal they all have foreign managers and like it or not like the players they are better overal. I’d rather have a pochetino than a moyes any day of the week. Moyes is damaged goods and has become a national joke. When Chelsea fans were singing “David moyes we want you to stay” that said it all. Also utd will not be getting in another British manager that’s for sure.

          5. belcs
            belcs April 22, 2014 at 1:27 pm . Reply

            Rodgers is a different case as he spent a large amount of time studying coaching in Spain, his mentality/ methods are very much continental. Very much the exception to the rule.
            Moyes is just a more effective version of Lamberk. We need a manager who can take us above mid table and not playing hoofball.
            My choice has always been Thomas Tuchel – not a big name outside of Germany but a top class coach and manager with a positive, attacking philosophy. Kind of the Martinez of the Bundesliga, except his results with Mainz have been even more impressive tbh.

  16. Randy’s plane landed in Brum 0800 hrs this morning!

    1. GIDDYVILLAN
      GIDDYVILLAN April 22, 2014 at 11:03 am . Reply

      Lol are you for real?

    2. #HELENIUS
      #HELENIUS April 22, 2014 at 11:03 am . Reply

      I heard that too

    3. Bum Bum
      Bum Bum April 22, 2014 at 12:30 pm . Reply

      I can’t believe that this is finally happening.

  17. I doubt that he as come for a tour of the rag market…..but that is the sort of place we now buy our players from 🙂

  18. markdrapernumber8
    markdrapernumber8 April 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm . Reply

    Anyone for Moyes then?

    1. Ardent Villain
      Ardent Villain April 22, 2014 at 2:34 pm . Reply

      Moyes and his lawyers are likely to spend the next 6 months arguing about how much of the remaining 6 years of his contract they’ll get out of ManU, so I wouldn’t expect him to be managing anywhere soon – and if he gets the full amount he’ll probably never need to work again.

      1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
        OohAhPaulMcGrath April 22, 2014 at 3:51 pm . Reply

        true. plus he looks a broken man I can see him taking 6 months off at least and working after xmas

      2. Andrew
        Andrew April 22, 2014 at 6:57 pm . Reply

        He won’t get the full 6 years payout, which I believe is like 35m for that long. He’ll get a year’s worth as there’s a reported clause that if he didn’t get CL, he’d only be able to receive that.

        I can see him going to the likes of Newcastle as I truly hope we’re finally taking a different leap than your average Joe, or David in this case.

  19. nath
    nath April 22, 2014 at 1:32 pm . Reply

    we couldn’t agree on the colour of shit lmao, i disagree about the martinez its not hes better than the club, it was the ambition of the club didn’t meet his , looking wot hes achieve sofar at everton. dave Whelan claims and martinez decision was spot on.

  20. #HELENIUS
    #HELENIUS April 22, 2014 at 2:29 pm . Reply

    For footballing reasons no I wouldn’t want Moyes. He’s great with a shoestring budget and can setup to contain sides but imo it’s not a huge stepup from Lambert in all fairness.

    Although I highly doubt it will ever happen, I’d like somebody of Hyypia’s calibre.

    Has done really well with Leverkusen and is earning great respect from coaches and players alike in Germany, knows the modern game well and would attract good players (not quite great ones but then we are Aston Villa)

    1. Andrew
      Andrew April 22, 2014 at 6:51 pm . Reply

      He got sacked at Leverkusen earlier this month. Got taken over by his former co-manager from last season after losing 9, drawing 2 and winning 3 since February. He’s got potential, but a big risk and not one I think we should take. Plus I believe he said he’d only manage Liverpool, but his management caliber isn’t near high enough.

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