Crystal Palace – Villa; Tough game, this, I reckon.

Palace

 

Palace up next then and they did quite well last season having finished 10th, didn’t they?

I quite fancy them to be a bit of a surprise package this season; well at least a package that might see them improve on that 10th, at least.

Not that I’m interested in them, apart from the fact that they play in some decent colours.

Last season we played them twice in a month, with us pinching a quite lucky win at their place, while we shared the points at Villa Park on new year’s day.

Injury-wise, I’m not seeing many problems for Palace, although goalie Julіan Speronі and Marouane Chamakh probably aren’t ready yet.

As for the Villa, Okore is still out and Crespo’s still recovering from a groin injury.

Gil, Traore and Grealish played for the under 21s on Monday, with Grealish scoring.

Reading between the lines, I expect Grealish to be part of the line-up tomorrow, but suspect it’s too early for Gil. Although Sherwood has been playing down Traore, in saying that he’s one for the future and only a kid who isn’t our saviour, it really wouldn’t surprise me if he was to get a few minutes off the bench, just to savour the atmosphere, as the Palace fans do make some noise.

As for the rest of our team, I don’t see much changing, apart from Grealish taking Sinclair’s place, where the link-up on the left could be a big threat.

So what’s my prediction then?

I definitely see goals, but not many, which doesn’t quite make sense, given that both teams have pacey attacks.

My head says it’ll be a 2-1, but I can’t say who to.

I’m still not convinced by our defence, to be honest, even though many of us seem to think we look better.

My heart says it’ll be a goal apiece.

Which would do for me, in that we’d have four points out of our first three games.

Not stunning, but reasonable, given that we have played our guaranteed loser at home to the mancs.

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  1. kerryvillan
    kerryvillan August 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm . Reply

    Guzan fucking terrible for the 2nd goal a quick throw was on and he held it only to throw it to amavi who was way too close to dann to even think about it! Granted amavi should hav just hoofed it as soon as he got it but Guzan put him under unnecessary pressure! Totally exposed on the right all game too, sherwood should hav addressed that earlier but also leaving gabby on the field when he was utter shite? Too many mistakes tim too many mistakes.

  2. New Regime
    New Regime August 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm . Reply

    extremely sloppy moment from amavi, i’ll allow him a few, lots of positives, didn’t see enough of traore on the ball but he is gonna be a big problem for the opposition, not too down about this as i thought we’d lose. should have been a draw though. Still not gel and desperately need a new right back, bacuna would much better ustilised in midfield,

    The only real negative is Gabby, im sorry but again he proved useless today, we have both sinclair and ayew who could do much much better

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:16 pm . Reply

      I knew we would lose but there a way of losing. For years we’ve been a soft touch in last 10 mins Sherwood must know this why has he not sorted it?

      1. New Regime
        New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:20 pm . Reply

        thats it though oohah after the years and years supporting this club i expect us to conecede in the last 10, no manager has ever been able to stop that. Even top 6 finishes under the norhtern irish fella and we were still vulnerable in those last 10. it’s a villa curse

        i agree it needs sorting pal, how though i have no idea! I’m convinced we could have Barcelona’s team and still be statistically the team with most goals conceded in the last 10

  3. Hitchens 60
    Hitchens 60 August 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm . Reply

    Nothing changes guys – I think that’s 23 games in a row where we lose having conceded the first goal – that’s f***ing pathetic in any language.

    Why oh why take Sanchez off and expose the back four – TS that’s just naive.

    1. New Regime
      New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:02 pm . Reply

      the change led to the goal though??

      1. Darren
        Darren August 22, 2015 at 5:17 pm . Reply

        They also scored almost immediately after Sanchez was subbed out. Yes Traore needed to come on but for Sanchez? I think not. Poor move Sherwood.

        1. New Regime
          New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:22 pm . Reply

          Darren we conceded a goal and were one nil down with sanchez on the pitch with noattacking impotess, maybe 2 goals…

          Tha Sanchez decision has no direct link with our loss today whatsoever. Gabby being on the pitch for 90 minutes is what baffles me

          1. Darren
            Darren August 22, 2015 at 5:29 pm . Reply

            Sorry mate but what game were you watching?

            Sanchez got subbed out in the 69th minute

            Palace scored in the 71st

          2. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:34 pm . Reply

            fair play mate lol, but it was a set piece, no direct link to sanchez, the deicison still made us livelier

          3. Darren
            Darren August 22, 2015 at 5:38 pm . Reply

            We all wanted an impact sub but Sanchez protected the defense and broke palace up all day, once he went off palace were a much bigger threat, that was pretty clear.

            As I’ve said I was calling for Traore way before Sherwood introduced him, but for the expense of Gaby who did nothing, or if Sherwood wanted all attacking it should have been Gueye if a CM was to come off, not our best player up to that point in the game Sanchez.

            Traore had to come on and made an impact I agree, but the taking off of Sanchez left us much more vulnerable and it showed. That’s the point.

          4. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:43 pm . Reply

            even the fact they scored when sanchez was off the pitch, it was 2 minutes later from a set piece pal. Clarke lost the duel from the corner, not traore who was sanchez replacement. from then onthe game was open and they exposed our right side most of the time. we were on the front foot after the Sanchez decision in an open game. Just a shame Amavi made the mistake and Gabby didn’4t come off for Sinclair or Ayew, that’s al it’s down to

          5. Darren
            Darren August 22, 2015 at 5:47 pm . Reply

            You are clearly not understanding what I’m getting at.

          6. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:53 pm . Reply

            I agreed with that somewhere else on this post and i do understand you perfectly. But taking off Sanchez is still not the reason we lost the game.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:56 pm . Reply

              Bottom line is we’ve lost 5 out of our last 6 games under Sherwood that is relegation form whatever way u look at it

          7. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 6:10 pm . Reply

            after 3 games this season with 10 new players we have 3 points. noone knows where we’ll finish it’s early days. If we win against Sunderland we could be in a european spot again, pff

          8. Darren
            Darren August 22, 2015 at 6:13 pm . Reply

            Ok of course if you look at each goal from the single player indivually Sanchez couldn’t stop them. But you can’t replay a corner and say well Sanchez couldn’t have changed that.

            What he would have changed is the prevention of palace attacking us and creating so many clear cut opportunities once he was subbed out. Would palace have been in those opportunities to score if he was there to break up the play prior to guzan getting the ball or prior to having to concede a corner from a post Sanchez palace onslaught. They strolled through our midfield without him there and got these opportunities because he wasn’t there.

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 6:16 pm . Reply

              Clark was like a statue defending that corner

          9. Darren
            Darren August 22, 2015 at 6:19 pm . Reply

            Yep agree clarke was poor. Horrible defending of the corner.

          10. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 6:23 pm . Reply

            Darren what your saying is swings and roundabouts pal, what we do know is that we wouldn’t have scored without the made deicison.

          11. Darren
            Darren August 22, 2015 at 6:37 pm . Reply

            *face palm* not what I’m saying again.. I give up..

          12. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 7:22 pm . Reply

            face palm? this isn’t some you tube thread for teenagers mate, you made yourself clear and you’re critisciing a decision which had a positive impact on our play. And to defend you the game itself as it brought goals. You’re clearly missing a massive parts of key knowledge when reading football matches, but don’t worry, i forgive you, it takes time.

          13. Darren
            Darren August 23, 2015 at 1:38 am . Reply

            Don’t know how many times your are going to miss the point. Traore could have come on for someone else and made the same impact without having the adverse affect that removing Sanchez did. There were much much better options for this and anyone actually watching this game could see this.

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:18 pm . Reply

      Another novice manager learning on the job at our expense. IV said it before and il say it again he is no better than Lamberk if anyone wants to slate me feel free I don’t give a toss los ipsa loquitur!

  4. domingo
    domingo August 22, 2015 at 5:03 pm . Reply

    that game was there for the taking in the first half .
    stupid taking off sanchez and even more stupid leaving on gabby. iv lost it with sherwood .
    he does not have a clue . gabby off and Traore on would have made much more sense.
    its going to be another long disappointing season.
    sunderland next . i’m really not looking forward to that.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:19 pm . Reply

      If we don’t beat Sunderland then we are in trouble already. Must win game already

  5. Benno
    Benno August 22, 2015 at 5:04 pm . Reply

    Very poor from Sherwood today. Absolutely unforgivable that Agbonlahor was allowed to stay on the field for 90 mins. He is quite simply a waste of a shirt. That’s 3 games where he has played the whole game. We had Sinclair and Ayew on the bench.

    Also why the hell did he take Sanchez off? Best Villa player by a mile. Westwood on the other hand was having a shocker. Even still, why take a central midfielder off when we were getting overran anyway.

    Bright spots today were Grealish and Traore, the rest of the team were very average. Palace were by far the better team.

    On another note, Amavi will get criticized for losing the ball at the end, but why did Guzan throw him the ball there when he was under immediate pressure??!! There were 4 mins left FFS.

  6. New Regime
    New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:08 pm . Reply

    the only problem tqctics wise was leaving gabby on! the game was there for taking after our equaliser, that was without sanchez! it was a mistake from amavi when we we’re looking livelier…disagree with slagging of TS for taking off Sanchez that call changed the game for us..

    1. New Regime
      New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:10 pm . Reply

      i see that he should maybe taken off gabby for traore but even without we were still looking on top at that point so why not then take of gabby for sinclair or ayew is the more important question…nothing to do with sanchez at that point of the game

    2. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:20 pm . Reply

      The game called for a change but not taking Sanchez off. He should take flabby of and leave our best player on

      1. New Regime
        New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:24 pm . Reply

        We were one nil down and maybe should have 2 down with sanchez no though???

    3. Benno
      Benno August 22, 2015 at 5:26 pm . Reply

      No, I disagree, taking Sanchez off had a direct impact on the game. Palace just dominated once he went off. If any midfielder should have gone off it was Westwood or Gueye who had very little impact on the game.

      Agbonlahor should never started let alone be given 90 mins. Makes my blood boil he is so bad.

      1. New Regime
        New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm . Reply

        no they didn’t dominate at all mate?! it was an open game and they exposed Bacuna, again nothing to do with Sanchez. We scored our only goal of the game with that decision, how can you critisize it?

        Their second was an honest mistake by Amavi, nothing to do with Sanchez.

        We could have won the game if TS had put on Ayew or sinclair for Gabby

        1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
          OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:36 pm . Reply

          Just seen goals why oh why did Guzan throw it to amavi when he hardly had time. All he had to do was kick it and we would of got point there is no game management whatsoever

          1. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:38 pm . Reply

            Fuckin hell, all i read week after week is why does kick it all the time…it’s not guzans fault amavi fucked up pal

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:50 pm . Reply

              Disagree just watched it again he threw it to amavi and as soon as he controlled it he was dispossessed straight away he had no time whatsoever

          2. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:39 pm . Reply

            lets say Guzan rolled it Amavi, he beat his man ran up the pitch played and assist and we scored, would you praise guzan for rolling out for once or not? probably

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:51 pm . Reply

              Of course but fine margins make a difference the fact is that didn’t happen and was never going to

          3. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm . Reply

            still not Guzans fault pal. Amavi tried to take the man on, how can you possibly blame Guzan

            1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
              OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm . Reply

              Because Guzan was facing forward and should of seen that amavi would have no time

          4. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 6:21 pm . Reply

            He had enough time to try and take his man on?

          5. KentNielsen77
            KentNielsen77 August 22, 2015 at 7:17 pm . Reply

            OohAah is right (I feel sick for saying that – haha). We have a horrible habit of playing out to our full backs when they don’t have time – we did it to Bacuna all game versus United. I’m all for building from the back but only when it’s safe to do so.

          6. New Regime
            New Regime August 22, 2015 at 7:25 pm . Reply

            and we also have a horrible habit of hoofing the ball when we should play it to our full backs, maybe that’ll be the topic next match, “why did guzan not play it to Amavi” pff

  7. GIDDYVILLAN
    GIDDYVILLAN August 22, 2015 at 5:09 pm . Reply

    I agree Tim’s decisions today were questionable to say the least,mackems next 3 points & no excuses.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:21 pm . Reply

      Second game in a row Sherwoods decisions have cost us he should never have took Sinclair off v Utd

  8. turv32
    turv32 August 22, 2015 at 5:10 pm . Reply

    only 1 subsituation made in the game… Gabby is a joke. Sinclaire should have got on at least.

  9. Tom
    Tom August 22, 2015 at 5:13 pm . Reply

    Major points from the game.

    Sherwood sat on subs for to long and the game was starting to get out of hand about 60 mins in. Gabby should have come off for Traore.

    Why did Sanchez come off? Best player on the pitch.

    Why did Guzman not hold the ball, drag the clock down and smack the ball up field.

    What does Kodak have to do to get some game time?

    Why is is Clark not captain?

    Crazy, crazy stupid decisions buy players and particularly manager. The sad thing is we were well in that game and could easily come out with a point or 3.
    Shocking shocking tactics and here does decisions!

    I’m so frustrated.

    Taking Sanchez out of the team was like taking a tin of beans out the bottom of a stack in a super market!

    Soooo stupid!!!!!

  10. Darren
    Darren August 22, 2015 at 5:14 pm . Reply

    So disappointed. The game was there for the taking.

    As soon as Sanchez was subbed off we looked ten times more vulnerable and palace scored not two minutes after.

    Yes, Traore needed to be introduced, but not at the expense of Sanchez who was brilliant in breaking up Palace all game and his distribution of the ball was class. Poor move Sherwood.

    I understand the want for more attack but surely Westwood or Gueye were better options if had to take a CM off at this point in the game or God forbid subbing Gaby.

    Gaby… About the only time he touched it in the second half he used his hand. Pathetic.

    Guzan.. the usual guzan. Can’t pass a ball and set amavi up for failure. Good between the posts and covered the corners well but costs us with his distribution.

    Traore. This kid is a star. Will terrorise defenses and this is a big reason for any villa fan to be excited, we look a different threat with him on the pitch.

    Grealish had a good first half but faded a little, him and gil to fight it out for a starting spot next to traore in my opinion

    And please do not play Gaby again, at least not as a starter.

    Lapses in defense and Sherwood lost us this game… Disappointing

  11. GIDDYVILLAN
    GIDDYVILLAN August 22, 2015 at 5:17 pm . Reply

    Unfortunately Tim really rates shabby that could prove to be a very costly.

  12. Bill Pearson
    Bill Pearson August 22, 2015 at 5:23 pm . Reply

    Words fail me, I’d like Sherwood explain to us fans what did he see that we didn’t? Abonglahor is a joke, things like he portrayed today in selection, changing players will make us say what the hell are you doing Tim? I only now hope he doesn’t play that twat Abonglahor and plays players with skill not because he thinks they are good, the fans today must be pissed off with that effort. Off to get drunk.

  13. Hitchens 60
    Hitchens 60 August 22, 2015 at 5:26 pm . Reply

    It’s not making a mistake I get angry with its repeating the same mistake that reallydoes my head. TS took Sinclair off against manure when he and Amavi where linking well and Gabby had contributed absolutely FA all game. Does it again against Palace. TS you better start learning quick son or you’re going to feel the wrath of the supporters.

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm . Reply

      We have made the same mistakes for years now different players same shit

  14. bencey83
    bencey83 August 22, 2015 at 6:01 pm . Reply

    TIm to blame yet again! Poor substitutions and terrible tactics. 4-3-3 is the wrong system for us, in my opinion. Play 4-4-2 and make the most of our pacey players out wide like Traore, Sinclair, Gil or even Bacuna and tell them to whip it in to Gestede. Could try playing Ayew alongside him or Grealish as number 10. What is he doing different to Lambert?!

    1. muzzvill
      muzzvill August 22, 2015 at 6:08 pm . Reply

      afraid not a lot of difference taking off Sanchez and keeping on that total heap of shite Agbonlahor was absolute stupidity he weaken’s the midfield and keeps the deadwood up front i am afraid that it is gonna be the same shit again this year i hope to god im wrong we need a striker badly. did we even have a fuckin shot on target today same old same old

  15. bencey83
    bencey83 August 22, 2015 at 6:02 pm . Reply

    Gabby and Guzan out! Wake up Tim!

  16. bencey83
    bencey83 August 22, 2015 at 6:03 pm . Reply

    Point per game = another relegation battle!

    1. OohAhPaulMcGrath
      OohAhPaulMcGrath August 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm . Reply

      Sunderland a six pointer already

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